imaqtpie @ imaqtpie @sh.itjust.works

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Aside from other concerns, I find the association with Brexit to be less than ideal. But people should also note that this was posted on r/anarchocommunism so it makes sense they recommended lemmy.ml

Overall it's fine, we are still at the stage where just getting people to hear about the existence of Lemmy is a big win. They may join and leave, they may just navigate to the page and not join, but now they are aware of it and may eventually decide to join in the future when reddit fucks up again.

No matter what advice you give people, they're still basically going to do what they want. Many will prefer to join larger servers, and some will always prefer smaller ones.

Honestly I think we should worry way less about this, because Lemmy is FOSS and we have enough solid instances already. People will naturally find their way and if larger instances get power drunk, people will leave. We don't need to try to orchestrate and fine tune what instances people use. Let them do what they want, and trust that the decentralized and redundant federated structure will function as intended.

It should only come into play if large instances actually can't keep up with their userbase growth from a technological standpoint. But again that problem solves itself because they can just close sign ups.

https://discuit.net/

One of the more commonly recommended reddit alternatives aside from Lemmy. Goes to show how far ahead we are of any other alternative, they all have virtually no activity.

Also note that we bottomed out around 37k in October 2024, so we have seen pretty significant growth since then, and it seems to be accelerating.

Lol for real?

The main thing I heard about Bluesky is that it costs like $100 mill to run your own instance or something like that, so they only have one main instance for now. They technically have federation, but for all intents and purposes, it's just another centralized corporate service waiting to be enshittified.

Lol that's a good one, subscribed

It might help people make recommendations if you mention some of your interests too. It's not guaranteed that there will be a community for them, but if not, that's the perfect opportunity for you to start one.

My first instinct is that sometimes less information is more. I like the fact that our users are essentially anonymous and we don't really have a set identity as a server, aside from being vaguely Canadian/North American. I feel that anyone can be a part of this server and not worry about fitting into the demographic composition or anything else. Sh.itjust.works, it doesn't matter who you are or why you are here, as long as you treat others with respect.

Also, I am a bit wary about the reliability of an online census in general. It seems fairly likely that we will get a lot of junk data mixed in with the real data, making its usefulness questionable.

But I am also the type who loves to see and analyze statistics. If this idea does prove popular, we should definitely consult u/Otter from lemmy.ca, who has some experience with this already.

https://lemmy.ca/post/15125231

https://lemmy.ca/post/34976449

As you can see, this is not an easy task by any means. The privacy concerns are not easily dismissed. I'm not sure if lemmy.ca has actually done their 2024 survey yet or if they are still working on it.

Good proposal though, definitely worthy for discussion.

Thanks. At first, I just happened to notice that the graph didn't match up with the table below. And then when I pulled up the source I realized there were many more errors.

The irony 🫠

Austria, Ireland, Denmark, and Finland are all DAC members and aren't included in the graph. The graph is unequivocally misleading, which is my original point.

The article itself does have a more comprehensive table, but it uses outdated figures from several years ago. The title of the article is "List of development aid sovereign state donors" and yet it excludes major ODA donors such as Saudi Arabia, not only from the DAC list but also from the second list.

I don't understand why people keep defending this when I outlined like 10 separate errors already. Are you even reading my comments or am I responding to bots?

It isn't titled "foreign aid per capita among western countries" though. The fact that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are also in the top 20 paints a very different picture of what placing highly on the list actually means.

Furthermore, it doesn't say "among western countries with greater than 8.5m population except for Norway which is much smaller". The caption says "among countries with large populations", where a large population is defined as greater than 8.5 million. That's extremely misleading and arbitrary. And then Austria and Saudi Arabia are omitted anyway, despite fitting all the above criteria.

So yeah, I would definitely go so far, and in fact I considered going further and calling it outright misinformation.

Still doesn't explain the omission of Austria (9m) or Saudi Arabia (32m).

I don't really know how to navigate Wikipedia but the user account seems pretty normal, it was probably just an honest mistake. It seems like they use scripts to make a lot of graphs and maybe some wires got crossed.

I understood perfectly fine. You are the one who seems to be misunderstanding something.

Saudi Arabia has a higher per capita ODP than three countries that are shown on this graph. Why was it excluded?

I think you did a really good job with this video. I kinda agree that it might be too long to hook complete newcomers. But it seems like a very useful resource for people who are just starting off on the fediverse or have heard about it a few times and want to understand more about how it actually works before really getting into it.

I think there will be a good number of people who bounce off the fediverse a few times before starting to actively use it, because it is relatively complex compared to mainstream social media. But then they will keep getting annoyed at corporate social media sucking and will eventually fully commit to the fediverse. This video could definitely help people take that step, and it really captures a lot of what makes the fediverse so great. Nicely done!

But Denmark, Finland, Ireland and Austria are DAC members and they were still omitted. It's just a bad job by whoever made that graph.

This graph is extremely misleading.

First of all it states in the caption that it only includes

highest donation rates among countries with large populations

Even of this disclaimer were true, it's completely arbitrary and makes no sense. Norway (5.5 million) has about 8 times the population of Luxembourg (670,000). Whereas the US (340 million) has about 60 times the population of Norway. If such a size discrepancy is so meaningful that Luxembourg should be excluded, then how can it be relevant to compare Norway with the US despite the vastly larger population discrepancy? Luxembourg should be #3 btw along with Liechtenstein (2) and Monaco (4).

More damningly, they don't even live up to their disclaimer. Taking the numbers straight from the quoted source. They randomly excluded Denmark (7) and Ireland (8), which are just as populous as Norway and almost equivalent to Sweden in per capita ODA. They also excluded Iceland (11) and Finland (12), which come in above UK/Canada/Belgium/France. And then as the cherry on top they conveniently excluded Qatar (17) and Saudi Arabia (18). The US is #19. And then it's also missing Austria (20), UAE (21), and New Zealand (23), before you get to Australia, which is actually 24th, not 12th.

Furthermore, ODA is just a small part of the economic picture. As it states in the wikipedia article

by definition, ODA does not include private donations

The US is giving approximately $64.5 billion annually in ODA. In comparison, private charitable donations from American individuals, foundations, and corporations totalled $557 billion in 2023, with 67% of that money coming from individual donations.

Granted, many of those donations are directed towards domestic causes, but even if a relatively small percentage is directed towards foreign causes, it alters the narrative that is told by this graph. For instance, this organization is largely funded by the Gates foundation, which is a private charitable organization, and thus not included as ODA.

The foundation has donated more than $6.6 billion for global health programs, including over $1.3 billion donated as of 2012 on malaria alone, greatly increasing the dollars spent per year on malaria research. Before the Gates efforts on malaria, malaria drugmakers had largely given up on producing drugs to fight the disease, and the foundation is the world's largest donor to research on diseases of the poor. With the help of Gates-funded vaccination drives, deaths from measles in Africa have dropped by 90 percent since 2000.

In conclusion, I feel like that graph helps paint a certain political narrative that isn't even remotely accurate, partially because it randomly omits about half of the countries in the top 25, and partially because it's measuring a very limited subset of philanthropic activity.

He was an all time great baseball player. Aside from that I don't really care too much about him as a person.

But since you're asking, he just seems hard headed and grumpy, and the allegations of being a major racist seem mainly based on discredited biographies from 50+ years ago.

I initially read this as desk and I was so confused 😅

Scroll down this thread, a couple people already gave some info on this.

Long story short, Liberapay doesn't take any cut of the donations, as they are entirely funded by donations themselves. Ko-fi has some very small platform fees. Not a very big difference but Liberapay should be slightly more cost efficient, especially for a recurring donation.

That's fair, but also reddit will continue to make unpopular decisions, and we are already the default alternative. Just have to wait and see