hoodatninja @ hoodatninja @kbin.social

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So I think you're missing the point because I agree. The implication is all of these sightings are nonsense/not real, the public is just really susceptible in these areas for the exact reasons you and I are talking about.

Notice the comment I was initially responding to. It's the kind of video that would make an english speaker's imagination run wild

That comic is not applicable. You don't have to speak english to report or see a UFO. That doesn't make any sense. What it does tell us (to follow the language thread) is english-speakers seem more susceptible to believing they saw it. It's a cultural issue is the implication.

This doesn’t prove anything other than susceptible people are relatively evenly distributed.

The point is the susceptible people are heavily concentrated in the US and the UK. Arguably Australia/NZ. How on earth is this map evenly distributed to you?

This is actually a decent summary that helps with the tendency to conflate race/ethnicity.

To paint with a very broad brush, "white hispanic" is folks with Spanish ancestry and a few other areas, but NOT central/South America (except for Brazil). A lot of it is determined by colonial history (which country controlled which place and when). There are probably a few exceptions or examples I'm leaving out but that's a loose rule of thumb. It gets murky because who is considered "white" is the result of a social construct. Hence why, for instance, Polish/Italian people are now "white" in the US. They didn't used to be considered white.

Racism is stupid.

Well, yes. Naturalization has been there from the beginning and "Birthright Citizenship" as we currently know it was solidified during reconstruction. So yeah, it's pretty fundamental to who we are as a nation. It's responsible for who we are as a nation. Quite literally, in fact.

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You need a source because this directly contradicts you.

That is not under 5 years.

Edit: Additionally, Monterey will get security updates until mid-2024. That's 7 years for your 2017 models, which is the most recent, and only impacts the 2017 MBAir.

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/will-my-mac-run-macos-sonoma/

No it isn't?

How is it cherrypicking? The OS isn't even out yet. I'm literally going off the current OS.

Where is this computer that got dropped after less than 5 years?

Your ability to inspire confidence in and work with the people you're supposed to be moderating hinges in part on your ability to act fairly and decently.

Right but this isn't the workplace or a regular social interaction. Most users do not know each other or keep track. Hell 99.99999% of my (former) community probably had no idea I was a mod. The relationship just isn't there to even exercise a social contract "as a mod." It's all hyper individual moments and one bad mod interaction is usually enough to sour someone against all mods. It's an impossible game to play. So I just tried to enforce the rules as best I could, as the community asked me to do, and stay out of flame wars in my own backyard. I explained my reasoning when asked, which usually led to me being called a slur or something similar. So this ideal you're asking for - which I don't even really disagree with - does not and will not take place, unfortunately.

This doesn't even touch the issue of people who swear they were "banned for literally no reason" and then run around reinforcing the reputation of "mods are power tripping jannies who hate free speech."

It was one example, and if you'll notice I said "or just any affordable windows machine," I don't know why you're ignoring that.

As for the 2017 releases getting less than 5 years support, I have never heard of this nor am I finding any examples. Here is the Monterey (apple's current OS version) compatibility list, which consists of computers as far back as 2013. So I'd be curious to see what you're referencing. Catalina, the previous OS which dates back even further with compatibility, had security updates until about 8mo ago as well.

3 years is unacceptable on Google's part and Apple hasn't come anywhere close to that.

We must be in different threads because I'm not seeing that. Unless you want to stretch that one comment about identity theft or the one about banking a fair bit.

I honestly don't think mutual respect should be predicated on whether one is being paid or not, so...I'm not sure I'm going to do that.

I'm not sure where respect vs. disrespect figures in this discussion. Are you saying that removing comments/banning is inherently disrespectful?

You'd be suggesting u/awkward the turtle — a user whose habit of pinning their own wildly sexist comments to the top of every thread and then insta-banning anyone who had a problem caused a whole petition about it — should be ok, actually, because they're not (officially) paid, and that I should do whatever strikes my fancy here as well.

I did not say or suggest anything of the sort. Please show me where you are getting that idea.

If any person doesn't want the stress of abiding by the social contract, they really shouldn't be interacting with others, but instead they deliberately accepted a position of power.

I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. Being a mod or an admin is not about "the social contract." It's about enforcing rules either as a paid employee of the site or as an unpaid community volunteer. Being a jerk is just being a jerk, regardless of what position you're in as you act like a jerk. I just don't see the relevance here unless you're trying to claim every action taken by mods/admins against a user (such as removals/bans) is somehow violating the social contract. But seeing as that is a ridiculous assertion I'm going to assume that is not what you're saying.

None of that will stop the chilling effect this functional ban is creating. Notice not a single post/comment about Musk, Twitter/X, Tesla, and SpaceX has gone up yet they claim we were basically drowning in them prior. So if we were, why aren't they happening here now? The answer is: No one will bother.

I don't love Musk and frankly I'd like to see less but it also takes me less than a fraction of a second to scroll past it. This change will not lead to them being aggregated in one place, it will simply mean the topic disappears entirely. If that's what the community wants so be it but this wishful thinking that it won't have the chilling effect I'm mentioning here is, well, wishful thinking.

Which doesn’t solve the issue at all. It’s just trading problems. It biases new content just like Reddit’s karma algo did. Same problem, different flavor.

Ok? It’s the default just like Reddit. We have a massive migration of people from Reddit operating like they’re still on Reddit because they’re on a site that’s meant to be a replacement for…Reddit. And one day it won’t be flawed/broken I imagine.

I really am not interested in discussing this with someone who is so eager to discount someone’s point because they use a different side of fediverse tbh.

You're so right. I have absolutely no access to Lemmy, especially not Memmy on my smartphone. There is no possible way for me to know how it works.

Well for starters it wasn't purchased by or for schools so no. But even if it was, it gets far more than 3 years of support. I think 5 is somewhat reasonable if we're just going to accept this sort of behavior.

Either way the comparison is not really apt. Mobile devices are far worse about this than PC's. You should instead compare a macbook (or a cheap windows machine), which gets security updates for 7-10 years. Google knows their devices are very popular for school computers, so to treat them like mobile devices and enforce the terrible standards that comes with is pernicious.