hassanmckusick @ hassanmckusick @lemmy.discothe.quest

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The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine

I just wanna chime in and say I don't believe it either.

I bring it up because it's the only reason that I could think of that someone is out here posting "proof" of the orders.

At some point I'm sure we'll see a blurred video of murder and then someone pointing at the people on the screen and being like "we know that guy, that's Hamas s Samah, he lives at 123 Westy B. He is a Hamas and this is him murdering. Here's the body of the victim later at the morgue."

Thats the kind of evidence I "want" (I don't want a video of murder but like, identifying people in the video and find out who they are and like... hard evidence)

But the "evidence" I was responding to is something I could forge from half a world away

I have heard rumblings of people who believe that Hamas did not even attack and this was a false flag.

Prob propaganda but it def makes you think. I mean Israel did know about the attack ahead of time supposedly. How did Hamas get through the iron dome? Did anyone see where they went after? How did that girl get from the back of a Hamas truck to a hospital? Why haven't I seen many photos videos from the ground?

This bad faith "evidence" just fuels the conspiracy.

It can’t be fake because I literally did it (tall man, hat, theater)

https://twitter.com/m7mdkurd/status/1712867453644972536?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Yeah Hamas def made those Israeli settlers steal Palestinian homes /s

Can you link the flight trackers?

Ok so address the fact that Israel has killed 36x more children

Warning me isn’t really the point, how are they getting the message out to civilians if they cut power to Gaza days ago?

And all that assumes you’re actually physically capable of walking to the safe zone

Kinda weird that New Zealand takes the time to differentiate calling the political arm of Hamas not terrorists and the militant arm of Hamas (Qassam Brigades) terrorists. Maybe someone should look into why.

I have tons of proofs to believe they do this.

To be clear, I also think Hamas took hostages. I just don't think most people consider that "being a human shield" unless there is imminent danger to the hostage taker.

You got only “Nana they are actually good people”

You realize that you can't prove a negative empirically?

I'll prove Hamas isn't using human shields when you prove the tooth fairy don't exist.

How exactly are they getting this information out to the Palestinians who ostensibly do not have power?

I wonder what Nelson Mandela would think about that.

tbh I’m not sure if there is one correct way to express it.

Agreed. I still think the first example is confusing but no one want's to hear us argue semantics. I appreciate the person I asked for coming back to clarify.

Actually it's 36 Palestinian children per 1 Israeli child: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

can you prove that they’re not?

That’s not how this works dawg. You can’t commit war crimes and expect everyone to be cool with it if you’re not providing evidence to back your claims of “they took human shields, there’s nothing we could do”

If they’re not mixed in Civilian where the hell are they?

If they don’t know where Hamas is, if they don’t have evidence, then what is the plan? To level all of Palestine?

Remember when the US thought Iraq had WMDs? Woulda been nice if we like… had evidence first right? Coulda saved a lot of money and lives, no?

the enemy is not so willing to shoot civilians

Wtf are you talking about? You’re literally spreading the propaganda that has allowed Israel to kill 36x as many children as Palestinians have killed

Was Netanyahu democratically elected or not?

Regardless, I don’t think the civilians deserve to die for that but I wouldn’t say they’re 100% innocent either.

They elected right wing extremist to “defend” them from the oppressed state they are invading.

Ben-Gvir is a terrorist.

Although in fairness it’s the US and UN who lined these dominoes up in the first place.

… My answer to you is “lets stop the apartheid and begin reparations so I can condemn all violence”

Here are some more pieces to the puzzle. Still trying to figure this one out exactly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0