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  • You're right, but Elon decided to operate Tesla with himself as the primary marketing force. He made the brand synonymous with himself, and they continue to do so even now.

    The Board not removing Elon from a position of power just indicates they continue to support his actions.

  • That is when 95% of their sales are from, hell probably more given the sharp decline in sales since he decided to sieg heil on national TV.

  • The Mach-E has absolutely no Mustang DNA in it despite what they want to try to brand. All it does is shit on the Mustang name. I can recognize this and I don't even like Ford or Mustang. I can't imagine how actual fans haven't revolted.

    Also, why can't manufacturers just accept that some people want the same vehicles available but with EV powertrains? Not every EV needs to be a unique model. Just like they eventually figured out with hybrids, you can just swap the power train and they'll sell.

  • 100% don't have trouble with my Toyota.

    And I've seen people ask where the handle is in my buddy's BMW. There's always going to be idiots. Acting like those are the most common group, or even near the average, is stupid.

    In some Tesla's it can be damaging to the car to pull the "emergency handle."

    This is the case for most vehicles with frameless windows. They have to move the window up and down to seal against the frame and to clear the frame. Tesla isn't anywhere near the first company to have frameless windows, they've existed for several decades, since at least the 1980s. There are a few old vehicles that predate electric windows, and usually have common issues with weather sealing, so it wasn't common until after electric windows allowed for better sealing since the glass could move up under the frame after closing the door. With all of those, if you aren't opening the door in a way that moves the glass, or if the window mechanism is damaged or inoperable for any reason, there can be damage. No one ever likes to talk about those other cars though when this topic comes up, because that tends to undermine the general assumption that it's something only Tesla does.

  • No, 90% of people have no problem. The few that don't see the button on the door handle, usually go straight for the emergency handle. A very small percentage aren't the type to grab things randomly and just ask if they're not sure.

    Everyone focuses on the dumbest takes and experiences, not the real world average. Actually owning a Tesla for the last 6 years and experiencing all of this personally, including long distance trips, and even supercharging on CA on those trips, made me realize just how most online posts about them aren't accurate.

    And how defensive some people get when their opinion based solely on reading shit online is challenged by someone with actual experience.

  • Oh yes, I forgot that the exact shape and position of this handle is the exact same on those vehicles as well. None of them are the exact same, that's the entire point of the complaints.

  • Do it. Fuck over the farmers even more than you've already started to do. Have even more of them turn on the party.

  • Seems to be a nice new influx of Russian sock puppet accounts in the last 24 hours.

  • You claimed I had pride in owning it. A vehicle purchased 6 years ago, when there were no real viable EV alternatives below $80k and well before the current extreme bullshit from Musk, and that I've clearly commented already with the opposite attitude.

    It's not your first incorrect assumption I'm sure. But it's clear from your attitude in comments that you feel like you're superior to others and seem to have a black and white view of things when reality is anything but black and white. So go ahead and live in your little fantasy world, at least they know you there.

  • Quite the contrary, because of the fascist running the company. But dipshits like you don't care.

  • Did it provide any new info? We already knew the battery caught fire, because, the fire. And that's all the article really mentions.

    The article also fails to give any context to put things into perspective, like good reporting should. Especially when it's not breaking news. It doesn't give any sort of context of how many car fires happen in general, or the number of drunk driving fatalities. It doesn't give any context at all, just creates a rage bait headline. Very successfully I might add.

  • Ah yes, I forgot that door handles are the exact same design in every vehicle from a manufacturer regardless of interior differences. Always the same handle no matter how badly it fits.

  • My point was it was a random civilian that helped, not a trained first responder, like I already pointed out.

    Or the other three were already dead from the crash itself. We don't know from the article, because yet again, the article doesn't actually mention anything new. There is no new information here that wasn't already obvious in November when this happened.

  • Except at least one occupant was able to be saved from the vehicle... By a random nearby person, not even emergency personnel.

    So clearly they were not trapped here, like you want to claim.

  • They aren't the only one, but you never see article about it on for other vehicles, and no one bothers to actually do any research anymore.

    And not all models are the same. In my 2018 model 3 regularly has new riders open the emergency handle by sheer guess instead of the actual button.

    But don't let reality get in the way of posting your assumptions as if they're facts.

  • Why was this article posted today? The article clearly states it happened the day before Thanksgiving. The preliminary investigation produced only the obvious, that everyone already knew, that the fire killed the passengers and somehow that's newsworthy? If it wasn't a Tesla this article wouldn't exist at all, and we all know that.

    Not directed at OP, directed at the damned news.

  • You're getting downvotes by the anti-Tesla hate. But you are correct.

    It being a Cybertruck didn't really have anything to do with it. One person was saved, so clearly they were able to get into the vehicle and to the passengers.

    Car fires happen all the time, people die in ICE car fires every day. There are an average of 33 car fires every hour in the US. But only the Tesla fires make headlines all the time.

  • The problem here is... Who puts them in a cell. It is the Executive Branch that enforces those decisions.

    But here it's the executive branch ignoring those decisions. So the system is designed for the Legislative branch to remove the overreaching executive leadership. Except they (as a general group majority) want this to happen, so they won't do shit.

    Theoretically, this is what they've always claimed the 2nd amendment is for. But those dipshits are asleep at the wheel because they've been fed propaganda their entire lives and believe everything is backwards from reality.

  • If his arrest and search were unlawful, then all evidence obtained from it is inadmissible in court. If they did not read him his Miranda rights, that could be enough by itself to basically throw everything out.

    I think that's what happened, and that's why the NYPD and other officials have been doing the rounds on the media talking about shit before even providing evidence to the defense team as required. They know the evidence won't be usable in court and they're trying to taint the jury pool with that info ahead of time before they have to admit that they fucked up so badly they couldn't even do the most basic part of their job required for EVERY arrest, by anyone, anywhere in the country.

  • The jury doesn't have to be ignorant, they have to be able to take the information they are given during the trial and render a generally unbiased decision based on that information. And that decision is made by the Judge, Prosecution and Defense teams. That's the entire reason for the Voir Dire process, it's designed to weed out biases on both sides that can compromise the trial.

    Of course the defense will bring up things like the state of US healthcare, specifically United Healthcare and their processes, etc. so jurors having a bias solely based on that won't matter, as much because that's going to almost surely be introduced during the trial anyway.

    That being said... good luck finding 12 jurors who both sides trust can be unbiased enough, and can render a unanimous decision in the current societal climate. And if the first is a mistrial, finding a second set will be even harder.