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  • I'm probably the odd one out, and I used to be infuriated by the idea that my phone didn't have a headphone jack, but I got used to not having it.

    I only use wireless headphones now, and I have a USB-C adapter I can use in case I do want to use an aux port. Have been tempted to buy some decent "Chi-Fi" wired earphones, I do miss higher quality sound.

  • It's the same reason we don't take drugs that haven't been tested yet. You know, not in lab rats.

    Google treats its users as beta testers all the time. Difference is a phone won't kill me when it crashes and reboots.

  • If you find that preferable, you'd love the Pixel then. You can turn it on and off as you please.

    https://screenrant.com/use-adaptive-charging-pixel-7-how/

    Also if you're using an official Apple USB-C charging cable on an iPhone, you can expect that it will charge at full speed (overnight or not).

    And if you're at a friend's house and they have any other Android phone on Earth, the fast charging cable that they use to resuscitate their own Android phone from 10% to 50% in 15 mins and will take your (much more pricey) iPhone 50 minutes.

    And the overpriced iPhone cable that charges those iPhones fast, will charge any Android phone fast.

    At the minimum, you should understand that you're the one getting the shit end of the stick. Don't explain how it's so convenient for you to get the shit end of the stick, that's what let's manufacturers keep getting away with this anti-consumer bullshit.

  • Ah I forgot about the keyboard attachments

  • I'd bet there's a CSAM test image dataset with innocuous images that get picked up by the script. Not sure how the system works, but if it's through hashes then it would be pretty simple to add that to the script.

  • Agreed. Take the money and do your own thing. Or better yet, help people that want to be helped.

  • Yeah, Steve Jobs was definitely an asshole, and he didn't personally design any of his products, but he did know what direction to move things in and what consumers wanted in a phone. He was the first to put a truly usable portable touchscreen computer into our pockets with a phone in it, and every phone nowadays is basically just a reimagined, upgraded version of the first iPhone. The way we communicate is forever changed because of the iPhone.

    But yeah iPhone's are kind of the pinnacle of "how much can we fuck you over before you notice" now. All because of the little Apple on the back of the phone.

  • In this case I just have a case on my phone which stops it from sliding. But generally I do like having phones without cases on them.

  • I mean yeah I barely use cables to transfer data, but there are times I need to plug it in to back up files. The Pixel 7 Pro is also a bar of soap and slides off of my wireless charger, so it's more reliable for me to use a USB-C cable. I also like having the phone next to me in bed, and so I use a USB-C cable.

    It just seems odd to remove something that is so reliable, even if only to have as a backup method. It would only make sense to remove it if wireless chargers are the dominant form of charging devices, especially in a portable manner.

    Having a port also enables things like game controllers and wired headphones, if the user chooses to do something like that.

  • I can't imagine Europe wouldn't lose their shit if Apple removed it entirely. And if Android manufacturers did that consumers would also promptly lose their shit.

    Beyond the consumer, having a physical port is beneficial to Apple. Businesses use attached devices (e.g. barcode scanners, DSLR camera attachments, charging stations) all the time. It's more common on Android phones, but I do see iPhones using these sorts of things. My local movie theater uses iPhones to scan tickets with an attached Lightning scanner, for example.

    I don't disagree that wireless charging is more convenient, but from the standpoint of being in emergency situations where a cable is needed to charge your phone, it wouldn't be easily possible if the port is removed. People might carry around charging bricks, and while wireless charging bricks do exist they're not commonplace and they're certainly slower than charging by wire. I can tell you nobody will want to carry around a portable wireless charger, although MagSafe is almost already just that.

    Playing devil's advocate, it's possible Apple does want things like portable wireless chargers to proliferate, like the one you can buy that slap onto the back of your phone. It means you're buying more of their shit, which is something they seem to love so much. It would mean you're buying MagSafe chargers or whatever proprietary crap they manufacture. I still do see it becoming an issue in emergency situations though, e.g. teens (a large user base of iPhones) use their phones a lot and borrow chargers from each other all the time.

    Impossible? No. Unlikely? Yes, for now.

  • This was Apple's chance to up the bandwidth on their phone ports, it would cost them pennies (maybe less than pennies) and would give them a talking point. 6 years ago the 2017 Pixel 2 had USB 3.1 support. It's 2023 now.

    Apple is either trying to squeeze people as much as possible before it's game over for their proprietary cables, or are afraid that people can't identify which cables support which speeds. Maybe a bit of both?

    Not acceptable for phones that are more expensive, to have speeds from a USB spec designed in the year 2000. Pixel 7 currently implements USB 3.2 standards, and with USB 4.0 (based on Thunderbolt, designed by Apple and Intel) on the way, I'm sure Android phones will be packing that as soon as they can.

  • All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec.

    Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren't lying.

    Though the Google site does say:

    Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables.

    https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en

    Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it's maximum?

  • There has to be a USB-C. Some people will always want wires to transfer data, even if it's through their "wireless charger", which is proprietary.