greenskye @ greenskye @lemm.ee

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Honestly feels like we got the worst of both options. The petty censorship, puritanism and lies of 1984 mixed with the lesser and trivial entertainments of Brave New World.

I feel like especially in the last few years at least the part of the left that was so concerned with certain issues with problematic media and addressing issues with overly sexualizing women has joined in some unholy union with the prudish and moralists on the right to spawn a general censorship of a vast swath of concepts backed up by both the lefts moral high ground and the rights religious teachings.

Where before there was the nuance to recognize that women were too often presented as sexual objects in popular media, as well as the fact that we shouldn't kink shame consenting adults or the sex workers providing what should be seen as legitimate service. Now that nuance is lost in favor of simple discrimination and censorship, only disguised in the original movements language.

It's never that I think they aren't evil enough, I just don't trust conspiracies that require too much competency. I think most of them are too dumb and uncoordinated to pull off most of the conspiracies I hear about.

Also in several games my ability to join friends in-game broke if I turned my profile completely private. As soon as I set it to friends only I could join them again.

This has never occurred historically. What historical period of workers and owners fighting at a large scale

The battle of cripple creek involved shootings and dynamite explosions between workers and mine owners and was only stopped once the governor stepped in and helped negotiate a compromise.

I wasn't trying to imply anything close to a full on war, but violence was a lot more common in early clashes for worker rights. Protests and strikes much more frequently were backed by violent behavior including several deaths.

Haven't we spent the last several years trying judicial reform? And honestly things are worse. We have one of the most openly corrupt Supreme Court Justices right now and they've made several extremely unpopular decisions lately. Also all decent chances to enact that reform recently died, with several indications that it will become even more corrupt soon. 'Not perfect' is an extreme understatement of the current reality.

It doesn't create good outcomes directly. It's indiscriminate, highly subject to individual biases and extremely destabilizing to society. It's definitely not a good thing if it keeps happening over a long time.

But when the workers and the owners are fighting at a large enough scale (beyond one or two murders), it forces the government to come in and mediate between the two sides. They must reach a compromise in order to quell the violence. Which means the owner class has to give something up in exchange for the worker class to stop the violence. It's how we got unions and worker protections when voting and political pressure failed. It's never the right answer, but at some point it's the only answer left.

No one is questioning whether it'll work. We know it works. We're questioning America's ability to actually pass it into law. Which doesn't look good (especially as many other countries are slowly eroding their own universal healthcare options as the capitalist class manages to nibble away at it). And in that sense, we've been moving backwards

I just want to urge everyone to be cautious about this familiar type of language that tries to frame violence as the “only remaining option

This gets harder and harder to deny when we're still talking about most of the exact same issues that have gotten worse, not better for almost two decades. How many elections and protests and awareness campaigns and volunteer drives are people expected to do with no meaningful progress?

At some point it starts to simply feel like a parent telling their child 'not now, later' over and over again with zero intention of ever actually doing anything. No where in life are you allowed to infinitely delay with no progress (especially to your boss at work), so why should the public accept the same?

No I think most of us recognize there are a lot of other tracks out there. It's just we've tried most of the other tracks (protests, voting, thoughts and prayers, etc) and most of them haven't made anything better. So... there are only a couple of tracks not tried yet. But already this one sure has made way more waves than 99% of protests ever have.

Poor people get murdered all the time. It's not what they said, it's that they chose to say something at all.

Getting into space properly would give us at least a lot of breathing room on that whole 'infinite growth' paradigm.

Humanity is definitely fucking up with our starter resources and early base building strategy.

They didn't say AI produces low value art. They said AI doesn't produce art at all.

I think there's an argument about art being the emotions it invokes in the viewer rather than the creator. Humans can find art in natural phenomena, which also has no feelings or backstory involved.

I'm not really defending AI slop here, just disagreeing with your definition of art and the relation to the creator rather than the viewer.

My 'memories' are random art asset files from a mod I downloaded.

Grampa tore his ear drum by using a metal screw...

Exactly

No, I'm specifically talking about the multiple campaigns on the left going back to 2016 that heavily focused on awareness and education of Trump's many issues. The left consistently banks on the logic of 'if I just make people aware of this wrong, then they will vote/protest/demand change'. They think simply educating people will magically get them to agree and take appropriate action.

Instead of actual political maneuvers similar to what the right has been pulling for years, they think 'awareness' is the only real work they have to do. There have been multiple times the right has blatantly ignored procedures, laws, etc and the left routinely fails to do anything beyond making their voters aware that the right is being a bad guy. They don't attempt to hold them in contempt, they don't choose to proceed forward anyway, because 'tradition' says they shouldn't. They haven't responded with any of their own schemes to counter the right at all.

The right is doing every possible action they can get away with and the left is so scared of doing anything even slightly controversial that they don't even take the options available by the rules, but instead hold themselves to even higher standards than necessary.

Yeah, feels like most of the left's strategy has been 'See what a horrible person he is!?', feeling absolutely positive that people will agree it's bad and will shun Trump.

Except a huge chunk of people seem to be completely happy with all of these horrible things, so the whole effort backfires.

These were so much better than the radio transmitters. That brief period where cars only had CD players, no AUX or Bluetooth was the worst.

I tended to get the impression that implied sex (such as fade to black scenes) were also not appreciated. That effectively they just didn't want their media to include references to sex pretty much at all.

Maybe most people are reasonable about it, but online at least it feels a bit like the old Tumblr days, except now these people are super anti sex everything and want to erase all mention of it.