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No you haven't.

You have seen people who are against US imperialism having a wide set of opinions on the conflict. But no communists support Putin. He's a bigoted reactionary.

You only think that because you've never engaged with them and because you're not used to having nuance in conversations

Edit: Massive typo

Yeah, communist authoritarianism is not a thing.

You're thinking of literal fascist anti-communist propaganda and using a very basic knowledge of anything leftist/communist-related to fill-in the rest

Why don't you define "tankie" or authoritarianism before, then? Instead of just sharing a silly meme and acting as if that was an explanation.

What even is communist authoritarianism? Lol

💀

You're literally spamming anti-tankie memes everywhere on Lemmy in the last hour. You can't also try to act as if you weren't touched by this hahaha

Troll

Do these people exist or are they just strawmen? I've not really ever encountered so-called "tankies".

They're strawmen. If you look at this user's profile, you see that they're just a troll, waiting to get banned for going on ML instances and basically begging to be banned so that we can all see "how evil the evil commies truly are".

Every left leaning person I've actually met are against authoritarianism.

And so are "tankies". It's just that people are unwilling to have nuanced and complex conversations. And instead of really engaging with different ideologies, a lot of people just result to name calling

That's the most common, and yet incredibly incorrect, answer

Not sure. This OP also went to comment on a 4 years old post in the "republican" community here in Lemmy.ml so it could indeed be a conservative too.

Regardless, considering how many of these memes they're posting now, they'll likely be soon banned.

It sucks that we have to deal with these kind of people that have nothing better to do

Well OP spelled it out in this comment here:

"Waiting for the ML trolls to come out of the woodwork complaining about how I'm evil or whatever"

It's just complaining and victim complex.

This OP is literally making pointless memes to get a reaction and then feel vindicated about all of this when some eViL ML replies to this user's trolling.

So this person is free to go to a specifically ML instance to be a rude asshole, and yet the "evil tankie communists" are at fault somehow for removing the stupid post or something... 🙄

"Oh hey, another user fresh from Reddit who just learned the term tankie and wanted to cry about it on a Marxist Leninist instance... I've seen this nonsense before"

You don't even realize you are further proving my point and you're coming across as even more fake.

I started respectfully, just as at first, you appeared to be "just another leftist with some different opinion". If you knew how to read, you'd have noticed that my change in tone came in the "edit" of my reply.

In reality, you're just another liberal apologists that is fine with genocide... And I am absolutely NOT going to be respectful to Zionists once your true colors are evident.

Your "point" was moot to begin with because you're not leftist. But you are a fake ally, ready to backstab minorities and allow genocides to happen

on the Left we

Where on "the Left"?

no one wants to be a white cis male contradicting the feelings, emotions or arguments of a POC or LGBTQ+ person

Maybe liberals don't. And I wouldn't consider them to be on the left.

Why would you want to police emotions or feelings of others?

Arguments on the other hand should be based on logic. And as long as you're respectful, one can disagree.

Your attempt at making all these different scenarios look the same, makes me question your position and honesty in this conversation

The Right doesn't really have this problem as the Far right opinions are generally understood to be reprehensible to most people

This is just purely false and inaccurate. There are plenty of people who agree with far right talking points

Edit: why was I not surprised to see that you are one of those "leftist" (read liberal) who is fine with the Palestinian genocide as long as it's your team that carries out the genocide?

THAT is why we have to be careful. Precisely because of fake allies like you, who say they are on your side while condoning a genocide behind your back.

But sure, talk again of "virtuosity tests" and the "Left"...

Source: ¯(ツ)_/¯

At least the other comment had the decency to provide sources for their statements

We were all saying to vote for the least worst option, nobody was denying the DNC was doing shit all about the situation and making it a bit worse

A BIT worse!?

They literally enabled it, gave the funding, the weapons, the military support and everything else to literally make it possible.

If you're not going to be serious, I'm not even going to engage

Notice how you're not even arguing against my points?

Aren't you being sensitive? (Lol I'm being an asshole on purpose here)

But why don't you actually engage instead of name-calling? I'm legitimately trying to debate you.

Why would a minority that is going to get targeted by the trump administration go against their self interests in your mind, if not to stand for something? (Namely a genocide enabled by the democrats)

You think that's "attacking" people?

Yes

Man you are a ultra sensitive bunch aren't you?

And now you're doing it again. And you don't even realize it. You think name-calling is not insulting?

It doesn't surprise me you got rightfully banned.

For a mere 30 days by the way. Doesn't seem that authoritarian to me, but y'all keep being incorrect so...

You think pointing out actions have consequences is "attacking" people?

No, I think writing

Do I think the shoulder blame for Trump's victory? Fuck yes.

Is attacking. And the reason would be very easy to find too IF you had bothered to listen to the voices and criticism of Arab people. They have been complaining about it for over a year while people like you told them to shut the fuck up and vote for the administration that literally killed their family members over in Gaza.

I'm sure THEY are the ones who aren't aware of what's going to happen to them (/s)

Cripes, how do you deal with the real world then?

Very well. In the real world I call out the same BS as I do here.

Do you go around in the real world blaming minorities as well?

Whatever, I think at this point given the members who have been commenting, yeah pretty much I agree I got a well deserved ban

Finally something positive then, my friend. Seems to me like it helped you to see a different POV... Not so bad in my opinion

So you attacked the people that didn't wanted to vote for the party that was funding and arming the Israeli government while they carried out a genocide and you think that was unfair?

LMAO

Absolutely well deserved ban

Edit: hilarious how more often than not, the people complaining about being banned from over .ml completely deserved the ban

So... Your brilliant example of the whole system not being racist is: there are some POC in the current administration

Did I get this right?

I imagine then, following your "logic", that the Nazi weren't trying to commit genocide against Jewish people (among other groups of course) because they had some Jewish soldiers in their ranks, right? Or that black people weren't enslaved in the US since some slavers had some black people in their houses?

Read my previous comment again, you still need it. And I won't bother replying to you or your racist/bigoted views again

Since you are one, you can't convince me otherwise.

You just wrote this too, correct?

If anti-racists and inclusive folks want to build a better future for minorities, they have to think outside of the CRT/DEI box because the system now is not unfavorable to minorities, only the poor.

Imagine thinking you are not racist while saying that the system is not unfavorable to minorities.

Fuck. Off. Racist

I don't care about silencing you lmao. I specifically wrote that 3 TIMES ALREADY lmao.

You racists really love your victim-complex AND projection, uh?

Again, get fucked bigot