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No one said anything about guilt. Just innocence.

I don't think you are misunderstanding anything.

And I don't know why people do weird stuff like pretend not to know something to "bait Americans" into a discussion. Maybe they get off from it.

And I like to have conversations with people who don't bait others into a debate by playing innocent.

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Anyway no harm done, and I'm just a "fellow European" so I'm not the target here.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe. Declaring innocence at each sentence is a red flag. I don't personally care, but I can't get myself to believe you either.

Funny though how I see it pulled out so often in response.

It's the way you dramatize it and declare innocence at every step that makes this a red flag. Don't get me wrong, I don't personally care, I just can't get myself to believe you. The whole Europe thing looks like you are baiting Americans into the discussion.

I'm based in Europe and I am yet to meet anyone ever who still needs to speculate about Trump's stance on stuff.

Anyway I hope you enjoy the discussion.

Yeah a bit. It looks a bit like an act. Being based in Europe doesn't exactly mean much in terms of understanding world politics.

I wonder if much of Israel underwent a moral drain (kinda like a brain drain but a lot of those "not evil" people made the good decision to stop being part of an apartheid state), and young people are immediately indoctrinated either by their parents/schools at an early age or by the state (via military service) at 18. I am beginning to see how skewed and ugly the current ideological composition of Israel is.

Some articles on Haaretz just sound like Israelis just now beginning to understand the possibility that Palestinians are human beings.

Being smarmy. I can't stand people who are ready to manipulate anything out of people as they do it with their smarmy smirks.

Green Day?

Or is that something we keep telling people who are voting third party?

How are you asking out of curiosity when you already seem to know what Trumps's stance is on?

Actually yes, and that may one day even break the deadlock American politicians put onto their failed two party system.

Pragmatically, Harris losing votes should make her understand the need to not support a genocide. But no, we have to lay the burden on everyone else but her.

I mean it does doesn't it? Trump supports can also threaten not to vote for him if he continues bad policies.

But we are talking about Harris supporters here. If Americans don't even have a real vote with real value then what would stop Harris or Trump policies that will eventually render everyone in Gaza dead? If you can't even speak to politicians with your own vote and if they don't even value your vote, then how are we going to achieve anything?

Harris is the one losing votes for her shitty policy. It's not the fault of the voter. It's the fault of the candidate.

To push her to change her stance... you only own your vote. That's the only leverage. She is the reason they aren't voting for her.

True.

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I eat ketchup out of a plate with a spoon.