goldenlocks @ goldenlocks @lemmy.world

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You misunderstand the voting system because you vote for someone you don't like.

Cherry picked chart, also wealth inequality is more important. You misunderstood my previous comment, Clinton was not good on inequality, it was the opposite. He started the trend of abandoning workers with NAFTA and it's gotten worse ever since. It was the Dems before him that were decent. Those Dems are long gone now.

Look at what you're trying to celebrate with that article:

Bunny White, 65, is a cashier at pro sports stadiums in New Orleans. She was part of a movement at her workplace to form a union, and they secured their first contract in early April. The result? Her pay will go from $12.50 an hour to $16 an hour, she said. To help pay her bills, she has a second job at a private catering company and also occasionally drives for Uber or Lyft, or delivers meals for DoorDash. Now, she said, she has more flexibility to take time off.

Living paycheck to paycheck still, no future for them, even stating they would need more raises to have savings. All of this is irrelevant considering how bad wealth inequality is.

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/blog-posts/charts-that-explain-wealth-inequality-in-the-united-states/

It's getting worse because of the Dems shift to neoliberalism, there is no counter to Republicans economic policy. Only way to stop it is to not vote for them and instead express democracy and vote for a candidate that has decent economic policy.

Not true, I'm expressing democracy by voting for a candidate that has decent polices.

So your assertion is that the arc Clinton -> Obama -> Biden represents an increasing rightward shift in the party, is it?

That is factual. Income and wealth inequality and all legislation allowing it proves me right.

Do you know what would have happened to a self-described socialist who tried to get the nomination in 1996, or a Palestinian congresswoman who talked about “From the river to the sea” in 2008?

Do you know what would happen to Biden if he went back in time and ran in the 1930's? The workers would riot.

I genuinely started looking for this, because I was curious what it had to say, but then I reread how you summarized it and concluded I probably don’t need to.

It is a book written by a liberal like you who actually researched the Democratic party abandoning workers. You refuse to read it because it would hurt your feelings to know you're wrong.

I don't believe you at all. Any person informed enough to do what you said knows voting for Democrats only makes out situation worse by consenting to neoliberal capitalism. None of the hundreds of people affiliated with the Green party I've met have said that, so you're lying.

Do you think being incredibly stupid is a prereq for being a raging leftist or something?

It is a prereq for voting for Biden

Letting Trump Biden win means no progressive wins again in this country.

Imagine thinking you're defending democracy by voting for someone you don't want. LOL

they’ve moved slowly toward the left over decades.

Absolutely false. Dems have moved to the right for decades since Clinton's attacks on the working class with NAFTA. Obama called himself a moderate republican and governed like it. Read "Listen, Liberal" by Thomas Frank for a detailed description of this.

Even if strategy A is a total failure, that’s no indication that strategy B will succeed just because it isn’t strategy A

Then try it and see, that's how it works. Instead you want to consent to the Democratic party's right wing policies without getting any concession for your vote. ___

I want Jill Stein to win. Also to be able to sleep at night knowing I did not consent to genocide.

Genocide Joe supports this

Decades of your strategy failing every time to move the Dems to the left.

Your vote for Dems is what endangers the vulnerable like those in poverty. You consent to wealth and income inequality with your vote, and can only blame yourself for not improving your country.

I did that in 2016 and it didn’t progress shit.

Did your lazy ass do anything else?

If you want to help, do it before the nominees are set.

Jill Stein is a good candidate in a historically weak election for the ruling class.

I've gotten dozens of people to vote Green in my state, what have you done?

Actual progress towards changing the Democratic party instead of consenting to it's right wing policies that are enabled by your vote.

You're not a "raging leftist" if you vote for Biden. At least vote PSL or Green

Pathetic, you can't show anything because facts hurt your feelings. Are you the ghost of Kiev?

You can't even read the description. It says the planes were stationary at an airbase, but this is yet another lie by the Ukrainian government.

russian propaganda

Where? This is a post by the Ukrainian government lying about Russian loses again.

Perhaps the ghost of Kiev was involved.

88 percent of congress

Y'all still falling for this?