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Sorry to say that it always was authoritarian. Lemmy was created for authoritarian tankies and bigots to spout their hatred.

Originally written by EnglishMobster@lemmy.world

See their post announcing Lemmy: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as I'm sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but it's been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

I wanted to ask ppl here if they'd like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

The instance that post mentions at the end became Lemmygrad. Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are the same people, and the creators of Lemmy hosted Lemmygrad (and are thus admins there).

This was their first post announcing Lemmy as a real thing you could go use. (It's also why a good chunk of the Threadiverse is absolutely infested with tankies.)

Feel free to check out meanwhileongrad for countless examples of this hateful content--fully encouraged and even repeated by the developers of lemmy themselves.

damn nexus really just said "fuck you enbies" :(

i hate cops because most of them are assholes

hmmm... reddit.

probably the vastly wild and extreme political views and pretending conservatives don't exist.

assuming everyone is american

seeing a thread of people talking about something you have no idea what

it's called lemmy because it's filled with lemmings

requiem for a dream. im gonna blow their MINDS

i think it'd be funnier if it was like a kid playing with big blocks and saluting, or something like that.

not that I don't believe you, but do you have sources yourself? Lotta propaganda flying everywhere

They do indeed post such content on other instances and communities. There are many examples of this in the community.

https://sh.itjust.works/search?q=genocide&type=Posts&listingType=All&communityId=25693&page=1&sort=TopAll

You don't dislike people who deny and even celebrate genocides? Don't think I want your respect if such content is okay with you.

The purpose is to highlight that tankies are extremists who hide their bigotry and hatred behind progressivism.

Shame thats as far as you're willing to go, I thought we were making good talk!

fuck 'em

But! The problem comes from labelling everyone a nazi because they disagree with you. I've been called a nazi many times by tankies and even other users. Do you think I should be killed?

There are going to be better responses to it elsewhere than whatever shit I write down here.

There really isn't. It usually devolves into handwaving, saying "Oh, actually mass deportation and death of an ethnicity is not actually genocide because some guy says it isn't!"

Kinda like this...

What’s happening in Xinjiang is fucked up, but I’ll point out that even the UN concedes there is no mass death or organ harvesting happening, and even the US State Department found “insufficient evidence,” which means at least some of the claims people read are spurious.

Ah, the beauty of international law. No, the UN and any other country cannot claim it a genocide because then that may cause a war. That's why instead we have the UN write their report, which finds numerous human rights abuses towards a specific ethnic. And then from that, independent organisations who do not have ties to governments can classify it as a genocide, in which the majority do.

Likewise, it also shows your ignorance and, dare I say, possible racism in that you believe Muslims are a collective. There are numerous sects of Islam, and Islamic Countries like those in the Middle East function using these different definitions. It allows them to disavow and proclaim that other nations are not Islamic and thus an affront to their definition of the Islamic God. Like how Saudi Arabia hates Iran because of their sect, the same thing applies here. If they recognise a different sect of Islam, then their government is no longer chosen by God. So yes, they don't recognise Islam in China because it isn't their Islam.

I also think it’s weird that the AP article and the AP articles it cites consist mostly of quotes from anonymous sources with no pictures or evidence.

Because China, and most nations today, have an extensive history of assassinations and arrests of whistleblowers. Need I remind you of the numerous doctors who were assassinated after warning about Covid?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52568716

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/world/asia/covid-china-doctor-li-wenliang.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/02/05/world/asia/china-obits-covid.html

Need I remind you about Assange and Snowden?

that one’s wild, literally the first “maybe Pol Pot had a point” take I have ever seen.

Not the first I've seen from Tankies.

There’s nuance and context missing.

Ah, yes. The nuance of Syria is actually good. America deserves to die. A dictator was right about killing people. The world would be a better place if there was more genocide. Putin should own Ukraine. China is a democracy. Very nuanced.

That said, I searched for the comment on lemmygrad and I think the reply to it is worth sharing

I am well aware of the comment made by the lemmy developers. I am also well aware that the same developer, Dessalines, thinks that Stalin's gulags were good and the Holodomor was justified.

this also seems kinda weird and racist, but i’ve never seen the word “hanjiang” before and idk if the wikipedia article gives all the context for what it might mean today.

If you don't know these things, then why do you keep arguing in favour of them? I've already proven you wrong many times, even making you concede that the Soviet Union killed queer-folk, yet you continue to defend them, why?

Too right on that one...

except you can't just label everyone you don't like a nazi.

Can't wait to see you ignore these comments or handwave them. Kinda like what you did when I pointed out that the Soviet Union systemically killed queer-folk!

https://sh.itjust.works/post/1826192?scrollToComments=true

https://sh.itjust.works/post/940503?scrollToComments=true

https://sh.itjust.works/post/561385?scrollToComments=true

https://sh.itjust.works/post/2729424?scrollToComments=true

https://sh.itjust.works/post/561968?scrollToComments=true

Do you want me to show you a few examples of their bigotry? It's quite well documented.

yes i tend to respond negatively towards those who call me racist.

as for my beloved community, what's wrong with it? Lemmygrad is filled with bigots and fascists.

I've approached many hexbear users and no, very rarely do they act as kind as you do.

other way around, buddy