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  • If it's so important then why isn't Biden doing everything he can to compromise with leftists and progressives? Dude should be standing at a podium begging us like "Please! I'm sorry I blocked the rail strike I won't do it again. Federal workers can continue working remotely. I won't raise the defense budget again. I will fight to block weapon shipments to Israel. Please help me."

    Or is this democracy not worth that to him?

  • Four years of Biden has driven us backwards. If moderates and liberals refuse to compromise with us now when they themselves believe democracy is at stake what does that tell you? They never will.

    I am done propping up their trash procorporate candidates. If they aren't willing to fight fascism head on then it's not a choice between fascism and democracy it's a choice between fascism now or later.

    I choose now. You're free to make your own choice.

  • Again, you're indistinguishable from a moderate or a liberal. You talk like one, you act like one, you vote like one. Regardless of what you believe you're not doing anything that would accomplish anything we're fighting for.

  • Okay so you’re saying he isn’t liberal enough I guess. I am pretty far left myself and would of course love more but

    I'm not trying to tell you what to call yourself but if you spend all your time and energy arguing against leftists instead of moderates and liberals what exactly makes you left? Call yourself whatever you like but your actions are indistinguishable from a moderate or a liberal.

    I would argue that he’s also gotten a lot of pretty great leftist stuff accomplished.

    🙄Oh please, do tell me what material leftist victory was made by Biden. A bunch of corporate handouts? Not leftist. Passing the IRA? That was the BBB stripped of everything leftists and progressives were excited about. Maybe you're so delusional you think blocking a rail strike is a leftist victory. Or maybe you think shipping weapons to a country committing genocide is some kind of leftist victory. Or raising the defense budget. Or forcing federal workers back to the office. Or setting Yellen and Powell on a war path against American workers.

    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

    If you want to see the things you care about set back another four years OR MORE than sure, don’t vote for Biden this year.

    The stuff I care about was already held back four years with Biden.

    Like a cut off your nose to spite your face kind of stupid.

    Yeah I've heard this plenty. You realize this cuts both ways right? Moderate and liberal voters refusing to compromise with leftists and progressives is every bit the same. Why are you trying to hold progressives and leftists to a different standard?

  • Your question attempts to hold progressives and leftists to a different standard than moderates and liberals.

    What is the game plan of moderates, liberals, establishment Democrats and Biden? How do they think they'll benefit by refusing to make material compromises with leftists and progressives?

  • The moment Trump was defeated in 2020 liberal and moderates did exactly what they always do: demand priority over leftists and progressives in every policy disagreement and Biden was happy to oblige.

    No. Moderate voters, liberal voters, the DNC, establishment Democrats and Biden will all reshape now or lose to Trump. Make a choice.

  • Lol! I expected him to make material compromises with the millions of progressives and leftists who held their nose and voted for him. The fact that you seem completely unaware of these factions Democrats depend on to win elections is just... a perfect example of how out of touch liberal and moderate voters are. They can't win elections without our votes. They need to start acting like it.