gloriousspearfish @ gloriousspearfish @feddit.dk

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It has evolved of cause. One of the sources you referred to, the OSI, has a clear agenda to define the term open source software according to their own definition. They are advocating that we use the term in the more narrow sense as you described, rather than the more original broad sense.

The Wikipedia article basically just cites OSIs definition. If you dig into the talk page on Wikipedia it is clearly a disbuted definition that is currently written.

While I absolutely am a proponent of free, libre or open source software, no matter what we call it, the narrow definition OSI suggests of open source software is still not how most people understand the term.

Narrowing the term open source software the way OSI proposes increases the confusion, it doesn't help.

You are cherry-picking quite a bit in that Wikipedia article. There is also a whole section discussing the confusion between the terms open source, free and libre.

I would venture that the most commonly understood definition of the term is that open source software simply means what it says, that the source code is openly available. And nothing more.

Free or libre software expresses the intention you describe explicitly, that the recipient is allowed to share and modify the software. Thus removing ambiguity.

Open Source is indeed a term existing for many years, probably a lot longer than you are thinking about. Trying to redefine that as meaning anything more than what is says is what is causing confusion.

Exactly. Also it is interesting how I am getting downvoted while you are getting upvoted - even though we are saying the same thing.

No I am using the term for how it was originally used, back in the free software movement days in the 70s and 80s.

Open source means nothing more than the source beeing open for all to see. What your are describing we called Free Software or later FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) but the open source part is redundant in that acronym.

Also some started using Libre instead of Free, as Free sometimes are confused with Gratis. That is where the expression Free as in Freedom cones from.

If you can look at the source code it is open source.

Did you see the report? Quite a lot of rockets fired from Gaza fails and hit somewhere in Gaza.

Because we destabilise them so they do not develop to powerful societies, that won't do cheap labour for us anymore.

Mycroft is the closest thing I can think off.

That is not true. If a pedestrian is waiting in front of a zebra crossing, the cars have to stop.

It has been really complicated to teach our kids. Yes kids, the cars have to stop when you wait. No they usually do not actually stop, unless you look like you are going to walk out in front of them. No you don't walk out in front of them, that would be dangerous. Yes, you have to look like you are going to walk out in front of them, without actually doing it, unless you clearly see they are going to stop. And yes, you still have to be ready to jump back in case they don't actually stop, but just look like it.

Above is the reality. What it should be like: Kids, you stop and wait at a zebra crossing, then the cars stop on both sides, and then you cross.

This gives me uncanny valley feelings. The eyes seem too high in the face somehow.

I won't leave any, ha.

Yes, you are right. But no way in hell am I going to pay for my own coffin.

And when your are done, you get to sleep in one for free.

Something must up with that, OP tried to hide it.

Factorio

My wife often praises my mother for having thought me from an early age that using the fabric scissors is a deadly sin.

I know they don't know this consciously because of their behaviour. If we suppose they were intelligent enough to understand their predicament, I would expect them to protest in some way. For example by breaking out of their captivitity, trying to kill their captors, or even commit suicide.

This is not the behaviour we observe from cows. They seem perfectly happy to bond with and follow along their captors (farmers) right up to the point where they get a bolt through their head.

This - to me - clearly indicates that they are far below an intelligence level where they can understand the living conditions we put them in.

At the point where it consciously knows that we breed and slaughter them for meat. That would be my red line. I don't know what IQ that equals to.

This is showerthoughts, not stonerthoughts.