Jill Stein Won’t Stop. No Matter Who Asks.
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<person working to literally fan the flames of discord and actively trolling for two months>
: Hmm, how did politics get so broken?!You're projecting again - I never said I was upset. Guilty conscience maybe?
I think your thetan levels must be out of whack. You feeling okay?
That's okay, 99% of the country isn't voting for Stein (or any of the other whack jobs running the grift of third-party campaigns). Certainly sounds like America hates her at the very least.
But you know, there is a solution. You could just not reply or block me. Not that I am giving you advice, but you know
No, you don't get to set the terms of engagement in a public forum
BTW, how many more times are you going to edit this? Never know when it's suitable to respond when you're feverishly rewriting your comments constantly.
So now you're just threatening people with more bullying? Do you not see how unhinged you've become?
But you didn't do the artwork yourself, you used AI to do it. That is wage theft because the AI was undoubtedly trained on work where the creators were not offered compensation. You could have paid for a stock image or you could have done a half-ass job yourself but you opted for the more morally-bankrupt version.
And I didn't say you wanted Trump to win, I just pointed out you were following the same playbook.
For the rest, I didn't bring up Harris or anything else election related, just your descent into obsession and fixation that is not indicative of happiness or good mental health. You can still choose to get better.
So you, an avowed socialist, are still fine with the wage theft of using AI trained on the work of real artists without compensation for your "artwork" though, right?
Hell, not paying the people whose work benefited you is really much more a Trump move rather than socialism.
And seriously, talk to a mental healthcare professional. This behavior is not supporting your mental stability or contributing towards your long term happiness.
So, is the text AI created just like the artwork? Seems a socialist would be less interested in tools that steal the work of hardworking men and women.
You need help. These are not the actions of a mentally stable and healthy person.
Dude, do you not know that pretty much ALL the aid we provide Israel is military aid?! Do you think we're sending them fruit baskets?
Most of the aid—approximately $3.3 billion a year—is provided as grants under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program, funds that Israel must use to purchase U.S. military equipment and services. In October, the Joe Biden administration said Israel had nearly six hundred active FMF cases, totalling around $24 billion.
https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts
I hadn't realized that you were that ignorant about such an evidently passionately held belief.
That she would consider conditioning weapons sales. She hasn't even done that. There isn't one lousy photon of daylight between her and Biden, and there isn't a photon between him and Netanyahu.
So I was correct in guessing what you wanted her to say? And my entire reply was about the probable outcome of that.
You mean to tell me that "vote blue no matter who" only works one way?
I was referring to centrist as those not strongly associated with either party. I despise the term "independents" as I think they are anything but. Basically the folks who see the Cheney endorsement and think "Maybe I can vote for Harris after all?" The 55 to 75 year olds who turn out in droves every election. And because of that, you need to get as many of them voting for you as possible to win.
And announces that she has a mandate to continue Biden's pro-genocide policies. Centrists rejoice.
Obviously you have no interest in discussing this rationally. Especially considering you then implied my top choice for US president would've been Netanyahu.
I laid out what I think would happen if Harris did what you wanted. You chose not to refute any of that. Or more likely - you couldn't.
So, want to try again or just throw more insults my way?
Okay, let's play this out. What exactly do you want her to say? Specifically. Because it's not like as VP she can do anything about it directly. So this is just going to be a statement, right?
Let's say as part of that statement, she says Israel should get no more aid. That would be the crux of it, correct? And Biden then has to come out and say, that's not happening while I'm President. Factions within the Democrats withdraw funding and support from her campaign. And the Iranians start actually drooling about being able to basically act unopposed. Hezbollah gets some shiny new missiles to kill more civilians. Centrists withdraw support from Harris and more than likely sit out the election, though a few may move over to Trump. November 6 rolls around and Trump wins, the region is even more of a shitshow than it is now, and just as important, Palestinians will still be dying. And under Trump it will get much, much worse.
Or…she tries to thread a very small needle, gets elected, and can the come to the bargaining table as the newly sworn-in President. She still has to juggle a bunch of different interests, but as President she has the power to do more than make statements and has quite a bit of latitude when it comes to foreign policy. Harris wouldn't have been my top choice, or even in my top 5, but I can honestly say I can't believe she won't make saving Palestinian lives a priority, unlike Biden. But she can't do it as a candidate.
A nuanced take as always /s
Did you even get to the end of the article or did you just read the headline?
Harris has very little room to maneuver, however, without losing a huge part of her base and the party machinery that are still deeply attached to Israel. There is only so much a candidate and sitting vice president can do or say to break with the position held by her staunchly Zionist president, a Democratic establishment beholden to the pro-Israel lobby and AIPAC, and a broad swath of her liberal base that strongly supports Israel and its war. If she’s serious about getting elected, she has to withhold the kind of unambiguous statement—or action—that pro-Palestine activists demand. So she’s reduced to tone of voice, oblique gestures, a message hidden between the lines.
Thanks for proving my point.
Not that you'll read it, but I think this might help explain:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/09/kamala-harris-israel-policy-palestine-gaza-war.html
Perhaps Harris’ loudest statement, however, was prefaced by her absence. Shortly after getting the nod from Biden in July, Harris snubbed Netanyahu, skipping his speech to Congress. (She spoke to a Black sorority, instead.) The next day, she met privately with him—later describing their talk as “frank and productive,” words that your boss might use after a performance review goes poorly.
The reaction to her remarks was underwhelming at the time, but the remarks themselves were extraordinary. “We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering” of Palestinians in Gaza, “and I will not be silent,” she told reporters and cameras. “Israel has a right to defend itself—but how it does so matters.” It was as close as a sitting vice president could possibly come to reading Netanyahu for filth without creating a diplomatic crisis.
True. I think it's more about whether Harris can pull in the "genocide bad" folks, or loses them to third-party protest votes. Of course if any of those folks were paying attention to the crap coming out of Trump's mouth, they'd understand how much worse Trump will be. I had folks (hexbear and .ml of course) on a different post telling me that not only would Harris and Trump be the same on this, but that Harris would actually be worse. And of course they're willfully ignoring how bad Trump would be on everything else.
I have a suspicion that part of what's pushing Harris' campaign strategy right now to focus on courting more "centrists" is that they know whatever she did to appeal to the left that's not voting for her would never be enough to satisfy them. Far easier to court the middle with straightforward messaging than to appeal to a voting bloc that is already determined to hate anyone that's not as chaotic as they are.
Yeah, this trial has been going on forever. Looks like he has to testify in early December (his lawyers had wanted to push off until March next year)
This is an archive of the best article I could find - basically his lawyers had used the war as an excuse for the delay, but that didn't fly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Benjamin_Netanyahu
The prosecution rested in June 2024. The schedule for the testimony of witnesses for the defense is scheduled to be determined on July 9, 2024.
Certainly guessing they're trying to delay as much as possible.
You did, but you'll probably just edit your comment to hide the fact.
Scientology is not a religion other than for tax purposes and only after they literally infiltrated the IRS. They are to religion as your dear third party candidates are to serious politics: going through the motions just enough to keep raking in the cash. You starting a community for it makes perfect sense - too bad you were too afraid to keep it up.