gandalf_der_12te @ gandalf_der_12te @discuss.tchncs.de

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the thing is, when you build rockets, and they actually work, and put people on mars, you can reasonably demand that people who demand exponential growth actually go to mars, because earth is already full. this way, you can get rid of the billionaires.

this but unironically. send all the billionaires to mars!

MAGA still lives in the times between 1680 to 1880, mentally.

A time when people had 6 children on average, the mindset that we call "conservative" today worked out, men did blue-collar jobs while women stayed at home and cared for their children.

That was a prosperous, interesting time from the point of view of white settlers. MAGA still things back at that time, and thinks, if they can just behave the same way that people back then did, they'll have the same, prosperous way of life.

Fact is, that way of life stopped working because the circumstances changed. All of US is settled, there's no more space, people can't have 6 children anymore, it doesn't make sense for women to stay at home anymore.

MAGA has yet to realize that.

I remember there was a study done on how to best slaughter swine (pigs).

The methods that were investigated included: a mechanical hit on the head, suffocation in CO2, and some other measures.

What was found was not only that the suffocation method caused significant stress in the animals, but also that the meat collected this way tasted way worse than meat collected through other slaughtering methods.

this could be relevant in this case: if fish suffocate slowly to death, meat producers might have a financial incentive to change that, to be able to sell better-quality meat, possibly at a higher price. anyways, it would make for good advertisement. that is why meat-producers (fish-producers) should take this seriously.

but is it significant harm, compared to other things?

i mean, every company harms the environment somewhat. streets pollute the environment through their presence. oil refineries leak huge amounts of methane into the air. factories often produce toxic chemicals as by-products.

I suspect that it might be some form of hidden feeling of guilt.

people immigrate here, and feel guilty for intruding. then, they take up some form of anti-immigrant sentiment as a form of self-punishment?

yeah, that matches my experience quite well.

in the case of interviews, these people often try to avoid answering straightforward questions.

the good thing is, they don't have to give an answer. the absence of one also says something. the question is, what do the people think? they have to make up their minds.

rather the opposite i'd say ... ready for take-off.

isn't that Hitachi?

I suspect it's because the hydrogen molecules are bigger than a single helium atom, which doesn't form molecules (since it's a noble gas).

So the hydrogen molecule only seeps through if it's oriented right (since the hydrogen molecule is a stick-shaped molecule).

Yeah, if by "going over", you mean accelerating in the horizontal direction, then you're right.

Just to illustrate this: Consider we want to put 1 kg of mass into orbit.

First, we have to raise it by 100 km. That requires 1e6 J = 1 MJ of energy (formula is mgh).

Then, we have to accelerate it sideways, to a speed of 8 km/s. The energy to do that is 32 MJ (formula is ½mv²).

So, most of the energy (97%) is actually in the sideways movement.

While what you said is true,

i guess that most people's motivation is rather the economic benefits. Think of it this way:

The 1960s space race created jobs all across the US and inspired a generation of scientists.

Mars settlement could do the same, but bigger. At least that's the idea.

a rocket is a wingless airplane IMO

Edit: with oxygen tanks, as you said.

i wonder, what do you, personally, think of slashing ice's car's tires? Do you think it's too violent, or is it just right?

the idea behind it is to "not let them get away with it".

I.e., when ice shows up in a place to disappear citizens, instead of driving away with these people, they get stuck because they can't drive away. This way, they don't get away with it.

Israel is the criminal and everyone knows it.

Israel will face the long-term consequences of its reckless behavior. Just not today.

Imagine Iran did a "preventive strike" against Israel because they might have nuclear bombs.

other problems make for a great distraction from the original problem. i suspect that's the reason behind a lot of trump's actions

But the question is – why?

My honest belief is that somehow, spaceflight is good for the people in the US because it creates jobs:

Think of how the Space Race of the 1960s brought jobs all across America. On top of that, it inspired a generation of scientists.

Both are valuable for a society, especially for the US, where these kinds of jobs are especially desirable.

That's why the launching areas are typically huge areals where not many people live. On top of that, rockets are typically launched eastwards (due to earth's rotation) and in coastal areas, so they fly the first few minutes over the ocean. Should something blow up, it does so over the sea, where it doesn't matter too much.