fruitycoder @ fruitycoder @sh.itjust.works

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I mean we build projects that benifit ourselves and don't do the boring stuff we don't want to for free. If we are affected by organizations responsible to us (we are paying customers, investors part owners, voters, etc) that didn't do due dillegece to maintain their IT systems by getting meaningful SLAs or hiring proven capable devs to support upstream, they we sue them, demand refunds, vote out execs, etc, etc.

I don't think the free loading concept is very helpful way to frame though. If a bunch of people can make things or run services for next to no cost, that's great too. Not everything is critical, not every public project needs funding, just because we put in work to something does it mean we need to be paid for it. Somethings only became critical because a bunch of people, just for fun, ran stuff on it and choose it just because it was free.

The later is true for all software, but a lot of the "open source is unsustained"talks comes from the trillions of dollars and critical infrastructure built on it, but with little to no funding going back to actually paying for development or any contract in place saying that bugs will be fixed at all.

I think the "abuse" part is less of an issue outside if this. Like I don't mind that business benifit more than they put into public infrastructure, in fact I hope they do, but its a problem in which people that benifit the most aren't paying their proportional amount of the bill or worse no one is and we poise ourselves to lose it.

What if we do all this and all we got was more sustainable ways of living where depended less on complex geopolitical agreements with dictators? That would suck right /s

Surely there is some good cheap dummy batteries out there.

I really want to run some of my old androids as security cams. They have WiFi, processing, and .. Cameras!

Haven't done it yet though tbh

exactly!

What about MPL? That seen more accepted in the rust space.

Agreed though, I don't know what the obsession with some of rust based GNU project placement stuff on going backwards on copyleft. Like I want to contribute to the next Linux not the next base for an Apple to take over and write a nice foot note about.

I think most of the other answers are good. For enterprise software I think, non community contributed, security updates behind a paywall are reasonable too. I know all updates can be behind a paywall and still be FOSS but it really hurts the public good / community aspects that make FOSS great to me.

From a policy stand point I think stakeholders should sue when a major security breach tanks gets identities stolen, the stock or worse and CTO failed to buy down any risk with SLAs on key software.

ITT: people make up fake desktop war drama between gnome, KDE, and window managers

Listen, its FOSS. Gnome and KDE can have different design philosophys, if they didn't why even be different. You can mix and match what you want and need from both quit a bit. The devs do!

All software has bugs, if your not paying devs or summited merge requests all you can do is ask nicely and fill helpful bug reports.

Advances in Arm chips make the journey of porting software look better for devs, once a project starts porting it gets easier for other architectures (like riscv).

That and silicon competition is good. Keeps them forced to produce better or cheaper products to compete.

I agree with the first part, but they are using the terms interchangeable of renting and borrowing. Talking about renting and subscription in the same vain as borrowing.

I just don't want the very cool idea of a library economy to be conflated with the "you own nothing" subscription/rent everything economy.

They both have similarities but the actual ownership matters IMHO or else you get rent seeking/enshittification.

Wait is this trying to suggest just renting is the same thing as a library?

The benifit of a library is you share the cost as a group and get some fractional use of it. Like books that you only really need access to for small amount of time.

Its not the same as say Amazon owning the book rental space and choosing, without any choice on your point, on what books are there or who could get access to them.

No doubt. People live and die in the hear and now. Its just frustrating how normal the idea that automating or making things more accessible means that it might ruins peoples lives. Like what a nutty notion, only made possible by the disconnect.

Excessive memory cost being place to target development. Got it.

"Reading the room" some people are really good in certain circumstances but when things are just off it goes off the rails.

As a person with no natural aptitude for it its actually tiring for me and I have to be on my A game to do it right

That's because something's wrong with our system. Joe the bricklayer has others things HE wants to do, but reaping the rewards for the businesses he helped build is in the cards for most.

Unfortunately I only have the last one: Because of the recent actions RedHat has been taking against OpenSource

I wish the technical aspects were better though

Incentives vs direct board control Google and Facebook can and have said no before.

MR accepted. Thx!

Thx!