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  • No, you answered this.(Emphasis mine). The guy might be scum but broken clock and all that.

    Sure... we'd all be better off if only the Ottoman empire continued to exist forever!

    With "Unironically yes". This is what I am answering. The Ottoman empire continuing to exist and it's effect on all of us, not just the Palestinians.

    Of course there wouldn't be an effect on you would there be? You have demonstrated you don't actually care for any other peoples in the Ottoman empire's grip but the Palestinians. Obviously you don't actually care about them outside you political arguments.

    I am not implying anything, I am straight out saying it, for most non-Turks life is better than it would have been under the Ottoman empire.

    The genocides started before the end if the empire and they also did not come out of nowhere. Trying to counter my older post via an edit with such inaccuracies is pathetic.

    The genocides happening at the tail end of the empire does not really help your case that we would be better off if it wasn't killed off. It's far more compelling evidence of what the empire would do than if the genocides happened centuries before.

    Tldr: Less people have suffered than they would have if the Ottoman empire survived. The Palestinians are an exception.

  • Compare what? Casualties of the genocides committed by Turkey vs the Israeli one? I won't do that and it's not because the numbers won't favor me, it's dehumanizing.

    For my people it's much better now, even if compared to calmer periods of Ottoman history. The same applies to a lot of peoples that were part off the Ottoman empire. Palestinians are unlucky to be subjects of another genocidal regime.

    Have you ever discussed with a national of a country that was part of the Ottoman empire (Turkey excluded for obvious reason) that wanted the Ottoman empire back? How exactly did you come to the conclusion that what the Middle East needs is the Ottomans back? Did you read any of the history of the peoples oppressed by it?

  • ???? More than a million each dead of Armenians and Greeks, successfull ethnic cleansing of Asia Minor of said minorities.

    I understand that you are not from a region occupied by the Ottoman empire and you have a simplistic mindview of Muslim's always good, Christians always bad. However saying the Ottoman empire should not have fallen is deeply offensive, certainly in the Balkans and I would wager in the Levante as well. The Arabs did rebel against them after all. With British support, just like every rebellion tries to get outside support.

  • That's not a problem, its exactly what governments exist for. Creating and enforcing laws.

    The problem us that some corporations manage to manipulate governments by bribery to avoid regulation, not that government or regulations exist.

    Are you a libertarian?

  • It would have been discovered later on, perhaps by another power first.

    We would still have all the atrocities that happened after Hiroshima and Nagasaki but people in the West would not suffer the anxiety that they could be possibly get hurt as well.

  • Bombs and cars possibly. Poison with very favorable conditions maybe. Bats and machetes no.

    Bomb are illegal, of course you can create bombs with materials legally acquired. Still way more complex than shooting, the Columbine shooters' bombs failed to explode, their guns did not.

    Cars can be deadly as well but they have way more important alternative uses to firearms. They also are not as commonly used to attack people as guns where both are readily available.

  • And then somehow: Open source = Siding against Palestine.

    This is the most ridiculous part, if they ever try to enforce the license against someone the definition of evil is going to be decided by a court. In that context a humanitarian organization using your software to help Palestinians is more likely to be condemned than a military contractor that kills Palestinians.

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