I gotta weigh in on that "weirdly antagonistic tone," too. You literally said you'd list more but you doubted that person would read it? Just antagonistic all over.
Go reread the person I responded to before you entered the conversation. They said their depression was caused by an external factor. That is who I replied to, and the reply you've been desperate to strawman ever since.
At what point did I gatekeep depression by agreeing with someone else about their diagnosis?
You're being a little ridiculous right now.
For the second time, stop trying to turn my reply to someone else into a blanket statement. I understand picking needless fights with strangers on the internet qualifies as dopamine seeking behavior. Maybe you should be looking inward.
Laymen differentiate between addressing things in their environment that cause increases in things like norepinephrine by the cause, environmentally, and not by the resulting chemical release in the brain.
Referring to both chemical treatment, such as taking medication, and environmental treatment, such as quitting a job that causes you stress (or depression, as in the conversation above) as "chemical" is the kind of nitpicky BS that would only further obfuscate the discussion, serving absolutely zero purpose unless you were the type to want to start a fight over nothing.
You may as well refer to everything the brain ever experiences as "chemical." It's would be the most literal interpretation, and would serve zero purpose as a method of communication. Much like your conversation with me.
Don't reframe my statement addressing someone's specific situation into a blanket comment. That person said their depression had a reason (that could be addressed, and once addressed, the depression was resolved.)
Speaking to that instance, it probably wasn't chemical, because if it was, it wouldn't have resolved with action taken independent of chemical treatment, but only with a combination.
I am not the person to try and strawman about depression.
If your depression is for a reason, then yeah, probably not chemicals.
Mine is treatment resistant major depression and very much chemicals. Took me until I was in my midthirties to find the solution. There's hope even for people with bad chemistry!
The thing about this is, I was a kid in 1996 when Bill Clinton ran against Bob Dole.
Our whole elementary school had a big educational event about the election. Bob Dole and Bill Clinton both sent personalized videos to our schools, explaining what they stood for, and we had a mock election.
My grade overwhelmingly went for Bill Clinton. (I want to say, he had a very easy-to-understand platform regarding the importance of education, and the impact it would have on us, the future electorate. And Bob Dole was... Bob Dole.)
Did I mention I grew up in a very Roman Catholic, very hardcore Republican house? That I grew up in Oklahoma, a red state?
I wasn't the only kid standing up to my parents over the results!
I guess what I'm saying is, if the children are aware, and still choosing Trump, we need to know why. Kids don't have a problem voting against their parents, as long as they understand the issues. And if they don't understand the role they play in their country, we should be extending further education.
I really think that we are failing our children. Our educational system is disgraceful.
Thank you for this.