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  • Hardly. To either. You are the one who injected themselves into the conversation here.

    I'm sorry that I was engaging with a conversation that didn't include you and you had to come tell me how I was wrong.

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  • I state that there are leftist who try to claim all crime is of type X. It is blatantly obvious to everyone, except apparently leftist, that crime is not all of type X. You come in and say "yeah, but bro most is type X."

    You can't leave it alone. This isn't a position you need to defend. Holy shit. That's not even the worst of it... The biggest problem is that most things of type X that are the worst for society aren't even crimes in most countries and yet you Lazer focus on the wording like it's a magic enchantment.

    Totally missing the forest for the trees.

    The irony, is that on a post I made about lemmy leftist making bad arguments about crime, you replied with a leftist position and a bad argument about crime. I can't make this up.

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  • Many conversations I've had with leftist here on lemmy have resulted in them claiming that all crime is either a crime of greed or poverty. No hyperbole. It's infuriating trying to talk with some of them on these topics because they simply will not accept that there are other forms of crime or violence... No crimes of passion, etc.

  • It is important to recognize that this is going to happen regardless of if it is right or not. Palestine is probably going to cease to exist in the coming months. The leaders of the western world have decided to back Israel in this conflict... This doesn't mean it's right. We should absolutely call it out... But this is happening.

    Now we have to decide if we let the civilians live or die.

  • That is a fair critique. Israel isn't solely at fault, but they do share blame. It's difficult to fit the entirety of the history, but from the Palestinian point of view what I said isn't wrong. There may be confounding external causes, but Israel has absolutely been in the wrong from nearly the beginning of its existence.

    There are arguments about preventing genocide that are valid, but most of these arguments start from racist ethnostate positions that have very little moral credibility.

  • In the United States, I find the Zionist argument to mostly be a racist Christian push to remove Jews from the US.

    I recognize that people may believe it without that racism... But it's just a crazy argument to me... And I think the way you originally presented it is the way that is normalized by extreme Christian organizations in the US which is why I called it out.