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Ok, so what is the exact process that creates consciousness? Cus that's what I'm saying is debated but you apparently have that answer. So what EXACTLY, down to the atomic level, is consciousness? What processes and how do they emerge into consciousness?

I'll be waiting for your exact, undebated answer.

"what property is altered"

Ummm, the part where you are a continuous object that is suddenly disassembled.

Dont be intentionally obtuse. Yes, this is a ship of thesis type problem, but there's a very clear point when you stop being "you" - when you're a stream of atoms. Although many versions of a teleporter don't transmit the atoms, only the data of how they're arranged. In that case, you are very distinctly a photocopy, as no original atoms remain.

In the case of atom transfer, you stop being you during the time you are a bundle of atoms with no consciousness. Some people believe we're like a forever stew and if you shut it down like that and reboot it, it's not the "same" stew anymore because it wasn't just the emergence of the consciousness, but the specific emergence itself. Essentially You v1 died in its sleep and You v2 seamlessly took it's place without knowing. Tho that line of thought could applied to sleeping and loss of consciousness during surgery.

All of this is to say it's not a cut and dry answer and people claiming there's a diffinitive, clear cut answer are incorrect. It's a complex question that touches on the very nature of our existence and is still hotly debated. Even academics who believe we are purely chemical machines debate exactly how that works.

Yup. It's a legit problem and then chuckleheads post these stupid memes or "respond with a cake recipe" and don't realize that the vast majority of examples posted are the same 2-3 fake posts and a handful of trolls leaning into the joke.

Makes talking about the actual issue much more difficult.

It is fake. This is weeks/months old and was immediately debunked. That's not what a ChatGPT output looks like at all. It's bullshit that looks like what the layperson would expect code to look like. This post itself is literally propaganda on its own.

It's public. Anyone can. Jesus you people always try to spin this into some conspiracy

This was debunked LONG ago - that's NOT a chat gpt output. It's nonsense that LOOKS like ChatGPT output.

A) literally means figuratively. Go grab a dictionary and check yourself.

B) Was I complaining about Reddit? If anything, I'm complaining about the fact that Lemmy is much smaller and often delayed in getting me news about current events

All the downvotes but literally every post here I see is on Reddit hours or days beforehand.

Don't listen to this person. Unleashed dogs are the responsibility of the owner in most states. Not only are you not legally responsible for the injuries to the dog, the owner is responsible for any damage to your car.

What are the good alternatives? Been a fitbit user for a few years now and not sure who to switch to next.

Inconsistency

As just a simple contrarian? No. But is he a contrarian? Absolutely.

Here, boys, girls, and everything in between...

When calling someone out, it's best not to be condescending yourself in your opening. You didn't elevate the discussion with that, you invited them to a slap fight.

And like the other person said so well, there is sincere reason for the question. But you clearly don't want to engage honestly and instead be dismissive yourself.

I think you nailed it. People get so hung up on what he became, they forget what he was. Dude really is just a contrarian. Almost like a white collar version of George Carlin(albeit very toned down).

That would be a fun swap for the purge code lmao. Free "Fuck Stratasys" keychain with every print. Better than the squiggly "poop" blobs I get now....

For awhile I still believed there was a use for creators themselves. It's basically the only way for an individual to sue a company for stealing their idea. But of course it gets captured by corporations and ruined. But until patents get some serious limits, yeah I'm out. They're more harm than good, I agree. I just felt the good they were doing still had some merit....

Or on a Bambu, just do a longer "poop" purge and spit it out the side like they already do. A tower isn't even necessary. It's only needed on devices without a purge capability. I've printed plenty of multicolored prints without any tower whatsoever on mine. Literally should be suing anyone but Bambu for that one.

Someone seriously patented purge towers? Ffs, first hearing that 3D printers were shelved for decades because some douchy company camped on the main patent, and now shit like this? Patenting "printing a square tower to accommodate the waste created during filament swaps" is fucking ridiculous. I can't stand patents anymore. Corporate extortion through and through.

Fuck Stratasys.

I could see the logic in that(not sure if it's true lol). Like, extreme heat to have a cconstant and complex mix of chemical interactions occuring, but then once they've formed something, cooler temps help focus long term stability. No idea if that works or not or just sounds good tho.

You can literally say the exact same thing with Windows. That's how you Linux peeps feel, constantly yelling "why are you using windows! Stop having fun!"

Is windows perfect? Nah. But does it work most the time? Yeah. All the bitching about windows being shit and yet my 300+ installed games all work..... Crazy....

How about just let people use what they like and shut up with the damn "my OS is better than yours" nonsense?

It's posts like this, that even though I've used Linux in the past, make me immediately think "nah, fuck that, I'll stick to windows. I don't want to deal with those people."

You're more of a harm than help.

Or Singapore and chewing gum.