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I actually addressed this very point in a different comment. But basically I actually agree. I'm being dramatic with "this is my hill to die on". My hill is probably more "all of these episodes are very emotional and not just Jurassic Bark should be mentioned every time." I think your family and pet experiences play a lot in determining which episode hits you harder.

I'm sorry but "I'm naming you Philip J Fry, after my brother, who I miss every day" pans over to Fry's childhood drawing that Yancy has held onto for decades isn't that much nuance. If anything, the dog doesn't say a word so you have to pull a lot more from your own imagination.

So then you don't want me to remind you that Bender has no backup unit and only exists in the first place because young Hermes spared him? Cus that would probably crush you. Like a platform falling down a canyon.

Charging their doorbell with their couch

Absolutely, have at it. This was a fun chat 😁

Also, with Lethal: I really enjoy that it adds the whole "Bender thought he was invincible but now he knows he doesn't actually have a backup and can die at any time" thing into the mix. Though in fairness, Bender has always said that his retirement plan was to flip his on switch to off, so I dunno if death really scares him.

be more charitable

Says the guy who said I shit on his birthday cake lmao. I'm not offended btw, I thought it was hilarious. But like, I think we're more like brothers who pick on each other now. I'm sorry, but that's just the rules. I don't make the rules. I just think them up and write them down.

Honestly? I just don't really like that reddit behaviour of regurgitating the previous person's comment and passing it off as your own unique idea, that's all.

In regards to Jurassic Bark: I'll give you that, absolutely. It is pretty devastating and I don't want to deny that. Blind, trusting loyalty. It's really beautiful and crushing that he doesn't get closure. I'll even give you the retcon not counting since it probably only exists as a fan service.

That said, I disagree that Fryish is 100% triumph. Yancy has missed his brother for years at this point. He still keeps around the drawing Fry did. He doesn't have to say the name and his wife already knows. He mentions that he still thinks of his brother every day. He clearly carrys a deep weight. Naming his son after Fry was symbolically giving Fry a life Yancy thought he didn't get. There's a lot of pain there in my opinion.

I will absolutely give you that Game of Tones is a victory, but honestly, that one always makes me tear up. That one just feels.

I'll give you the wait. That scene does absolutely tug at my heart and I can appreciate that kind of loyalty and how beautiful it is from a pet.

But that's why I see the brother, and his wait, as so much more powerful. He's still waiting and hoping that one day his brother will pop back up too. Especially with still having Fry's drawing.

But to be honest, I'll also agree to disagree on that one - I think your experiences with family and pets growing up makes the episodes hit differently to different people.

Most underrated emotional episode? I'm gonna go with Lethal Inspection. Where we find out Bender is defective and was supposed to be scrapped, but a young, sympathetic Hermes overrides the machine and spares baby Bender. I feel like that one rarely gets brought up and it's a pretty good one from the newer seasons. Definitely had a bit of a gut punch.

I'll die on the hill that Luck of the Fryish is sadder. One is a relationship between a human and a dog. The other is a relationship between two brothers. You really trying to say the dog is worse?

I'll also put Game of Tones above Jurassic Bark. Fry getting to actually say goodbye to his mom and tell her how much he loved her? No contest.

Besides the fact that they totally retconned Seymore anyways and he doesn't die alone anymore. It's the first movie. He lives out the rest of his life with Fry when he returns back in time.

Luck of the Fryish ≥ Game of Tones > Jurassic Bark

"We know who they are. We don't really need due process. I'm not one of those people so nothing bad could ever happen to me so I don't care"

Seriously, the amount of times I see violations of civil/human rights being acceptable because they're "the enemy" is really sad. Do you have no self awareness? That's EXACTLY what they're doing to you. Stop being a pot of crabs pulling us back in. Be better.

So ... What you're saying, it's that there would be less oversight when it comes to choosing their targets. Almost exactly like OP said. Almost like they were speaking in broad strokes and you failed to notice any nuance.

I'm at such a loss for words having read such ignorance spouted as truth. You are truly a master sophist.

A magical person delivering mail instead of a soulless automated machine? The value of human experience and interactions? I didn't say it was the core message, I said it was a message in all his movies. A "theme" or "motif", if you will.

Tell me you've never seen a Studio Ghibli movie without telling me you've never seen a single Studio Ghibli movie. Literally every one of them contains some "advancing technology isn't necessarily a good thing and the old ways have value" message. If AI were personified in one of their movies, it'd be a oozing black oil demon monstrosity spitting soot into the air.

It'd be like Banksy doing advertisement for Nestle. It's just so contrary to the message they put out.

Yeah, I goofed. You're right.

Well fuck me you're right. Ok fair enough

In fairness, the Second Lady has traditionally taken on various projects, although usually of a kids/education/health/humanitarian angle. Nancy Reagan was particularly well known for her various causes. Michelle Obama was advocating child literacy and healthy lifestyle I believe.

Not defending her at all, but I think it's important to keep our facts and histories straight.

Edit: I dunno what I was thinking. Those are all First Ladies. You're right, I can't think of shit a single second lady has done, or even who any of them are. I retract my point.

All I know about is they put things like "John 3:16" on the packaging, but it's tiny and usually in a hard to see place. On the cups it used to be on the inside of the bottom rim. I'm sure they donate to religious organizations.

That said, in-n-out consistently pays ABOVE minimum wage and treat their workers very well. Prices also haven't gone up like other places. So with them, unless I find out they have a specifically evil viewpoint I've been unaware of, then just being religious gets a pass.

The issue is believing that everyone has a right to their beliefs but then attacking them. It's like in cultural anthropology: you should only judge a culture by its own internal morals and standards and not impose your outside view when studying them. Kinda like Star Trek Prime Directive.

If you TRULY believe everyone is entitled to their own morals, then you're breaking that when you criticize someone else's. After all, they have their own morals system and you're perfectly fine with that. Your morals can only include your actions. If you believe that your morals are objectively the best, you're no longer thinking the first thing anymore. It's subjectivism vs objectivism.