fine_sandy_bottom @ fine_sandy_bottom @lemmy.federate.cc

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For the millionth time, locking up a candidate during an election cycle would make the winner of the election an autocrat by default.

You would've become everything you hate about the republicans.

IDK, maybe go to the booth with your spouse and shuffle through the queue just to look like you're participating.

As an aside... I really liked my grandma, but it's true that she wasn't well informed about politics. One time she told me that she always voted for the opposite party my granddad voted for, just to cancel out his vote.

Nonsense.

You said something stupid. Now you're trying to back it up to avoid admitting it was a poorly considered brain fart. This is the worst part of social and frankly, cowardly. In an anonymous medium like lemmy no one cares if you're right.

It's not cowardly to wait until the moment you'll have the best impact to make a statement like this.

She would've contacted the Harris campaign early on offering to endourse, and they've orchestrated and scheduled this release amongst everything else.

Not entirely sure what you're getting at.

It's amazing how little most people know about politics. There would absolutely be loads of people that would vote for rfk Jr.

What do you mean?

They'll face the same consequences whether they step up now, or before early voting.

Presumably, they think early voters are not undecided, and that this is the right timing to have the best impact.

You're misunderstanding me. It doesn't blow my mind that a Democrat should go to jail if they break the law, of course they should.

I wholeheartedly agree that everyone should be subject to the rule of law and that both republicans and democrats should be tried for their crimes. The problem that I don't think you've really accounted for, at least not in your comments, is corruption. I'm sure you will agree that the judicial system in the US is partisan, and guilt can be determined according to ideology.

If courts are encouraged to try cases against candidates for elections, you can guarantee that courts will be used nefariously. There are numerous examples of failed democracies where courts are used in that way to legitimise autocrats.

You would be correct in calling this a design flaw, or an inherent limitation of democracy. It's a complex problem with no good solution.

A few months ago I would have agreed with you that Trump ought to be locked up. If he had been locked up 18 months ago, that would have been fantastic. However, after much thought I've come to the conclusion that the only way forward is for him to be beaten in the election.

All I can do is to keep rephrasing the same points you're trying to avoid.

Do you really want a court to decide the outcome of an election?

Do you need me to enumerate the many problems that would cause?

Does that really happen though? Maybe I just don't notice it.

I guess it comes up in any thread about windows, in the same way a post about "google chrome adds whatever anti-feature" is going to have comments saying "firefox is way better".

It's like an emotional fixation with the word "genocide". I have a morbid fascination with that frame of mind. Like what is the compulsion to believe everyone around you is evil? In any case, I don't think this person is capable of helping me understand that.

Semantics.

It's not Trumps electoral desires that outweigh the legal process. The electoral process is the core of democracy, and it can't be subverted by a public institution.

If the electorate is stupid enough to elect an insurrectionist and serial bankruptee then public institutions including courts must allow them to do so. That's a fundamental inescapable component of democracy.

Yes a Trump presidency will be a disaster for everyone. Yes Trump deserves to face the consequences of his many crimes. Yes the American public is about to make a terrible mistake.

However, the dirty complex unsolvable problem is that Trump may have enough support to be elected President. The court is not the right tool to address that issue, because the court is empowered albeit indirectly by the electorate.

It natural to want court processes to expose Trump as the fraud he is and cut his chances at a second presidency. It wouldn't necessarily work out that way though. Courts are regularly used in faux-democracies to empower autocrats. That would be the perception amongst Trump's base and really, if we're allowing courts to influence elections then the only thing separating us from "autocrats" is that we think we're the goodies and they're the baddies which is obviously a furphy.

The only way to get rid of Trump is at the polls. Beat him in the election, send him to jail, watch him disappear into his worst nightmare of irrelevance.

This is so tedious.

Please, by all means, continue wishing that you lived in a country where courts are used to subvert democratic processes.

I'm constantly reminded of the dog walker from /r/ antiwork

No one has any life experience or analytical skills, but everyone thinks they are correct about everything and have a superior understanding of how the world works.

Let's be honest, most share trading is more like gambling than it is like investing.

There's a lot of this on lemmy, like the shitpost sub.

Any topic is fine because it's a shitpost aparently. Hilarious.

In fairness, "most" people his age would be below "average".

Edit: oh, apparently it doesn't work like that. 100 is supposed to be average regardless of age?

Yes!

I mean I don't want to be mean about where someone lives. About 33k people live in Alice Springs and I'm sure it's a great place to be.

That said, it really is in the middle of the desert. It's harsh beauty is breathtaking even on google maps satellite view:

There's no sensible reason to move Australia's Political capital in any case.

I doubt it's even feasible to support a large population in that area.

Yeah I'm... agog.

Am I wrong to think of hipsters as generally lefties?

Am I wrong to think of Vice as the people that do edgy progressive journalism and interesting documentaries?

Something is wrong with my preconceptions about these things.

... or maybe he just smoked too much crack and is suffering a psychosis.

We do have our share of anti-immigrant immigrants though.

Jack van Tongeren comes to mind. A Dutch migrant that hated asians. He set fire to a bunch of Asian restaurants. There was something of a political movement IIRC, they wanted to send asian migrants back to where they came from (?!) and relocate Australia's Capital City to Alice Springs because it was geographically central.

What a shit show.