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  • It's interesting how different this dynamic is in Australia. Our public broadcaster is doing a mini series on the US election and they have a journalist there at present. In their recent episode they were talking about how people would see them with a mic outside some public or government building, and approach them with the intention of telling them all about their voting preferences and the underlying reasons.

    That's a stark contrast to how things roll in Australia. There are actually very, very few people who I would talk to about voting preferences. For example I talk to two of my sisters in group chat multiple times a day, see them at least weekly, talk to them about health problems, stressful situations, mental health... but I wouldn't openly ask them who they're planning to vote for and why.

    It's socially acceptable to talk about current issues in a non-partisan way. So in the lunch room you might say "this new tax thing is fucked" but you wouldn't say "<political leader's> new tax policy is fucked". If it strayed into anything remotely political I'd clam up. I wouldn't talk politics with work colleagues, I'd sit and judge them silently.

    I'm not trying to say our way is better. Maybe it would be better if people talked about things more.

    In very specific industries it might be different. I think it certainly was historically. My grandfather was quite vocal in his support for our Labor party (on the left) because of their support for unions. In his workplace people would have overtly supported Labor and it would've been very difficult to work there if you didn't. Ironically, he was a bit of an asshole. My grandma was pretty great, she told me after he passed away she didn't know who to vote for anymore because she always just voted the opposite of him just to cancel out his vote.

  • Somewhat related is iron man. The suit can't protect him from g-forces. He would just be pulpy human goo in a can.

    That said, I feel silly pointing out anything to do with super hero's because they're not intended to be realistic.

  • Just several years ago I was shocked to learn that you do CPR if someone doesn't have a pulse, not a defibrillator.

    It's a very, very common misconception.

    Since then those portable defibrillator units have shown up in public places, which has led me to morbidly wonder two things:

    Firstly, how often are they used incorrectly?

    And secondly, how do you know when you're supposed to use it? I suspect the answer to this one is "the EMT on the phone will tell you to" but... IDK it would seem unlikely that most people could do something like that in an emergency.

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  • I have to wonder how good political polls are at detecting this type of thing, also motivation to actually go vote on the day.

    What I mean is, before and after the floating garbage joke, responses to polls might have been the same, but some responders might have become much more motivated to actually vote.

    Most commentators and pollsters are saying the polling is very thorough and accurate but resolving these types of issues doesn't really seem possible to me.

  • Yeah I have to agree.

    I'm not in the US, the leader of our conservative party (not presently in power) is a douche but not like Trump.

    In the present climate I doubt my partner would vote conservative, but if she did I could live with it.

    If she voted for someone as messed up as Trump I would genuinely struggle with that. I feel like it would be indicative of deeper problems.

  • God that's cringey. Do you practice that in the mirror? "We will not speak again. History will speak for me." What does that even mean?

    History will probably confirm that Americans on both sides of the political divide have become less tolerant, and find silly ways to justify their intolerance while being completely unable to acknowledge their own shortcomings.

    My comment isn't a personal attack. I was trying to demonstrate the problem with you using the paradox of intolerance as an excuse to be intolerant. While you're using the paradox to be intolerant of out-group, out-group is doing the same to you.