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  • That's not really what I'm saying... at all.

    Everyone encounters unsolvable problems, whether or not they favor thought terminating cliches. However, we also encounter problems which only appear to be unsolvable. My point is, if you take the attitude that "it is what it is", you'll never know the difference.

    You can call me captain solveitall if you wish, but I suspect that won't make you any less miserable.

  • I can't believe I have to say this but "I'm not going to attempt to resolve this" is not the same as "I have not made any attempt to resolve this".

    Honestly though, you're very welcome to continue spouting dumb phrases like "it is what it is" if you find that helpful.

  • Sure ok but in a democracy the presumption is that law makers have the support of the public.

    In this specific case most (maybe all?) Australian state's and territories have already enacted similar laws, the federal law just reinforces them. That doesn't really seem tyrannical?

  • The problem with thought terminating cliches like "it is what is is", is that it promotes lazy thinking.

    You may as well say "I've encountered another problem which I'm not going to attempt to resolve. "

  • I agree that governments spend money into existence, but I disagree that taxes are merely to curb inflation.

    Residents need to contribute some of their productivity to support the services they receive. That's tax.

  • That's a fair point. I didn't really post it thinking "this anecdote supports this law". I just think it's worth remembering the insidious manner in which these organisations encroach on society.

    Obviously laws are intended to be policed through governmental force, but they're also a communication regarding what a society considers acceptable.

    For example, if a society legislates that the age of consent is 16, then people being charged with statutory rape is only a small part of the impact of that law. In Australia we literally have police giving presentations in schools to ensure that teenagers are aware of the laws that exist to protect them, and how something that might seem innocent to a 15 year old (like sending your crush a photo of your boobs or something), can have dire consequences. In summary, the existence of the law is society standing together and sending a very clear message that some behaviors are unacceptable, a formalisation of social intolerance if you will.

    Fascist organisations have been successfully recruiting, and it seems like they're gaining momentum. Sure some bar might be able to keep skin heads out, but "soft" social intolerance very obviously is inadequate.

    The thing is, these groups don't start with hatred right off the bat. A normal kid might see a fascist organisation as some kind of boys club. Cool iconography, loyalty, camaraderie, whats not to like? The existence of this law will ensure that people are aware of the depravity of this ideology and reduce their ability to seduce recruits by deception.

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