fidodo @ fidodo @lemmy.world

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Depends on which part is altered. Lots of Linux distros are just curated collections of software, drivers, and configuration. You can easily achieve your OS goals without touching the code of the base distro at all. If they didn't need to modify the base code then there's nothing to distribute back. That would be like distributing your personal OS power user config settings. If you're not touching source there's nothing to contribute.

The hardware seems very custom to me. The problem is that the device everyone carries is a massive superset of their custom hardware making it completely wasteful.

I didn't know how much work they put into customizing it, but being derived from Android does not mean it isn't custom. Ubuntu is derived from Debian, that doesn't mean that it isn't a custom OS. The fact that you can run the apk on other Android devices isn't a gotcha. You can run Ubuntu .deb files on other Debian distros too. An OS is more of a curated collection of tools, you should not be going out of your way to make applications for a derivative os incompatible with other OSes derived from the same base distro.

Isn't Lemmy supposed to be tech savvy? What do people think the vast majority of Linux OSs are? They're derivatives of a base distribution. Often they're even derivatives of a derivative.

Did people think a startup was going to build an entire OS from scratch? What would even be the benefit of that? Deriving Android is the right choice here. This R1 is dumb, but this is not why.

What, you aren't excited about a future where everything is cloud computing spyware that sends all your activity to an AI to be analyzed and picked apart by strangers?

It's just marketing to be like "look at how capable our AI is with just one button". I mean if you want to be charitable it's an interesting design exercise, but wasteful and frivolous when everyone is already carrying devices that are far more capable supersets of this.

Ubuntu is just a bunch of apps running on Debian! Did you know you can take Ubuntu app .deb files and run them on Debian?

Look. The R1 is stupid, but this isn't the reason why.

Cost to run the company? They will proudly milk as much money as they can to maximize profits. Having a bigger margin is a point of pride for them. Watch any shareholder meeting. They will publicly brag about it.

I genuinely can't tell if this is incredibly dry humor or if you're being serious.

I knew pay in the UK was bad for developers but that's completely cuckoo. It sounds more like the uk is the odd one out though since while EU pay is lower than US I do know that it's still better than most other jobs in the same area even if you aren't in the Capitol. But there's also always remote work if you live somewhere with no jobs.

The cloud buzzword was the dumbest thing ever. The cloud is an infrastructure technique for deploying server resources. It has zero end user impact. It made certain features easier to deploy and develop for software companies, but there is nothing fundamentally different in the experience the cloud provides vs a traditional server. Outside of the industry, the term means fucking nothing to users and the way it was used was just synonymous with the Internet in general. If your file is hosted on the cloud or a centralized server makes no difference to the end user and there would be no way to tell how it was hosted in a UI.

Seriously, I kinda want to use it for my markdown files.

If you think programmers make less than other jobs then you're totally out of touch.

It is lower than the US, but it's still higher than average EU salary, plus you get tons more benefits and job security. Also, with remote work, you can get a US job in Europe. You'll get paid less than if you were in the US, but more than other Europeans, while still enjoying the social benefits, and since you can accept less that makes you attractive to US companies. Main downside is having to adjust to US meeting hours.

That's the best possible outcome. We're super lucky in this industry because we have the best paying remote work opportunities out there. Before you couldn't get an SF job in a LCOL area, and even with a COL adjustment, you are still making closer to an SF salary than a rural Penn salary.

You can always cut back on expenses, you can't just increase your salary. I will take high cost of living with a high salary any day and just cut back on non essentials. If you're eating out all the time and a meal is $20 vs $5, that will add up to a lot, but if you're spending 50 cents on an egg instead of 10 cents, you'll still be making way more in a HCOL area. Plus programming has the best paying remote opportunities, so you can have the best of both worlds if you're talented.

It's pretty simple isn't it? If you want to be paid a lot of money, learn how to do what other people can't or won't. In the software industry those opportunities are all over the place. You just need to find it and take it.

I think it makes perfect sense. Those people are building something from scratch. That's a lot more responsibility and skill needed than to maintain a tiny part of a huge well established system. The people capable of doing an A+ job at building something totally new are very few and far between and the competition to hire them is fierce. The best way to move up in this industry is to build up your skill and jump ship to a new job as soon as your skill has outpaced your salary.

I don't think that's the statement. I think it's that they were hoping that they could ignore it but weren't about to.