Sybil @ federatingIsTooHard @lemmy.world

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i don't want the government involved in anything. why would i want them deciding the degree to which they should be involved in someone's healthcare?

that's been overturned. you cant get it reinstated without an act of congress.

it's the only way voting can work.

if you're making an accusation, you should be able to support it.

that doesn't say they are the same

splitting the vote

the narrative of vote splitting presumes i would ever vote for your candidate. i wouldn't. if any splitting is happening, it's that you won't vote for my candidate, and when i phrase it like that you will see how silly it is.

only a vote for a candidate helps that candidate. a vote for any candidate is a vote against all other candidates.

, it’s a strategic decision taken to advance your goals.

this part also assumed universal goals. one of my goals is to smash capital and the state. the democrat party will most definitely be part of that. voting for them doesn't advance my goals.

Voting is not about putting your support behind a candidate

this is the bit that i found most objectionable. almost all the rhetoric around an election talks about support: financial, popular, or political.

voting is definitely supporting a candidate, pretty much any way you slice it.

Voting is not about putting your support behind a candidate or identifying with them, it’s a strategic decision taken to advance your goals.

maybe for you, but your values aren't universal.

It seems pretty clear that queer people would be persecuted a hell of a lot more under Trump than Biden.

from what i can tell, it's getting wors, not better, in the last 5 years. i have no reason to believe it would get better with either of them.

hitler could never imagine having the power of the presidency under pax americana, but he would have loved to translate the "racial jungle" speech. the supreme irony of biden's dog literally attacking federal law enforcement while people are in prison for the same thing is palpable. kids in cages, building a border wall, and supplying arms to the middle east to prop up an ethnostate. look... how much hitler are you willing to tolerate?

We are never ever ever getting different nominees.

        not as long as 
    democrats 
    think that they 
    don't need to

    they will never ever ever give up power peacefully
    never ever ever
    getting different nominees.


  

i'm still workshopping it but i think it's a worthwhile endeavor. i'm open to more re-writes or suggestions.

you may never have a real vote again.

when was there ever a real vote?

preventing an overt fascist and his sycophantic supporters and enablers from winning the next election, further dismantling (small-d) democratic institutions in our country, and likely attempting to turn the country into a weird hybrid of a kleptocratic monarchy and an extremely nepotistic aristocracy?

are they fascist, mornarchic, or aristocratic?

Third party is typical a vote for Republicans.

a so-called third party vote is a vote for the so-called third party.

That is a choice to support the only insurrectionist in the race, which is probably the point of your comment to begin with.

there is no insurrectionist candidate, except maybe cornel west, but i'd say he's more black nationalist.

It is a sad fact that a vote for anyone but the two biggest parties (in almost every country) is essentially wasted.

soundl like voter suppression tactics.

By not voting you’re helping to elect whoever you prefer less.

only votes for a candidate help elect that candidate.

what russian propaganda?

It’s saying you like them both equally well and you are indifferent to who wins.

no, voting for someone else is saying i want someone else.