Sybil @ federatingIsTooHard @lemmy.world

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It’s not ad hominem

it is. you're attacking me instead of what i said.

Every single person who has a nonzero chance of being president next year supports Israel, so you should vote based on what the best possible outcome is.

i only vote for someone i want to have the office. you don't get to tell my what i value or how i should express my values. you certainly don't get to tell me how to vote.

Eventually you’ll figure out that the party that got 1% of the vote last time isn’t suddenly gonna sweep it with 51% this time.

no one proposed that

I was young once too

this is ad hominem. what i'm saying is true or false regardless of how old i am. also, you don't know how old i am. and on the internet, no one knows you're a dog: you could be 12 years old for all i know.

this statement is pure sophistry. it's disgusting rhetoric, and you should be ashamed.

The people talking about abstaining or voting 3rd party are overwhelmingly of progressive mindset.

so it's not a vote for trump at all. in fact, he's running on the republican ticket, so a vote for a so-called third party would be a vote against him.

i mean to vote for someone who won't support the genocide, but i wouldn't fault anyone for looking at all the candidates and deciding none of them deserve to have the office.

you're theorizing that there is a conspiracy.

you're right. she paid for travel and a ticket to the event, and then sat at a table. the fucking horror.

no one is proposing voting for trump here

so? do you think she chose who was sat at that table?

it's not to prove anything. as you said, I'm likely the only person who will know.

doing the right thing is always right.

none of them were eating at her table.

the individuals who abstained for moral reasons know.

they're the experts on ethics

nonconsequentialist ethics are strongly preferred by professional philosophers, so someone here might be ignorant, but it's not me.

that's a consequentialist view of ethics, and one to which i don't subscribe

jill stein did not dine with russian oligarchs, and she has been critical of them. so you're kind of making things up.

that's a leap of logic

abstaining from voting for genocidal geriatrics is doing the right thing. it's an end in itself.