That escalated it a lot, but the protests and strikes started way earlier with a pension reform that kinda robbed the people of 2 work-free years. And it wasn't even that applicable to most of the population, instead it unfairly targeted those who held some of the most physically demanding or damaging jobs. Macron doubled down, and then that traffic stop killing... so yeah, it's really not surprising that it escalated from there.
What didn’t help is that police has a long history of violence in general, see this article from 2016, for example. It’s been like this for a while.
I’ve spent some time just walking around looking at what’s happening during the protests in a large French city, and those didn’t really feel violent or overly destructive, more like a show of strength and trying to make the overwhelming public stance heard.
The only establishments that I saw had their windows broken were either large international chain stores or some municipal buildings, small cafes or various boulangeries were intact. There were burning trashcans and other stuff, but never too close to a building or something that might catch fire, everything was moved towards the center of the streets. It worked to disrupt car traffic and give the city a protest vibe, but it didn’t feel like the reason was pure destruction. You could’ve even come up to both masked protesters and cops and just have a chat in most cases. I think it was more violent in Paris, but I’d guess a lot of it had similar vibes still.
The thing is, it’s not like it started with this, there were peaceful protests and strikes at first. But when you ignore your population long enough, they see that peaceful means aren’t working and escalate. It could’ve been prevented if there was a reasonable governmental response.
Yeah, I think that at this point there should just be an established term, not an ever-expanding acronym. Like an actual pronounceable word. Is there one besides "queer"? Similar to something-divergent, for example? Like neurodivergent/neurotypical, which became more well-known in recent years. I kinda like those.
Eh. You can probably solve it with a good enough artificial narrow intelligence. Or/and dedicated infrastructure, inter-car communication protocols, etc. The issue is it's solving the wrong problem altogether.
Je pense qu’ils devraient de toute façon changer de domaines, non ? Juste pour être tranquilles. Alors c'est pas mal comme moment pour partager au moins ça.
That's a good write up, thanks. I don't claim it's coordinated, just that it feels more and more that way.
Also, I switched to DDG a year or so ago and I haven't heard that it was a wrapper for Bing. So I went to google it (I can't not use this verb when talking about online searches, lol), and it seems like it's not really the case. It gets some results from bing and utilises their ads to make profit, but it seems like it's a small part of their output. Is that incorrect? Do you have some more info about it being a wrapper? I'm kinda curious now
Subscription-based, restricted to verified accounts Chromium, that shares your personally identifiable public key with each website you visit. Shudders
I know, right? It’s so weird. In every single instance of some bullshit happening it’s easy to brush it off as incompetence or an attempt at profit maximization, but overall it feels a lot like some kind of targeted disassembly of whatever made the internet great and facilitated open discussions.
Yep, definitely. I have a plus subscription, and stuff that was easy for it just a few months ago now seems to take several back-and-forths to barely approach similar results.
Science content is where I noticed the most degradation. It just stares at me using blank “it’s not in my training data” answers to questions that used to have comprehensive responses a while ago.
I think they’re scaling down the models to make them cheaper to run?
Sure. And googling about that climate change hoax is waste of time as well, there’s too much leftist propaganda there. Or stuff about somegroup's human rights, these people feel iffy and I don’t want to drive engagement discussing them. Or lets slash women's healthcare because I have my Bible here and there's nothing else I need to know. Earth is flat too btw, why do I need to google what some NASA shill says, it's all CGI anyway.
It's a hyperbole and it should not sound reasonable, but this is what this type of thought process leads to. If you think your topics of choice are immune, you're kinda missing the whole point of this conversation.
Nope, but "idk, I don't care to know, everything besides programming and whatever second thing you mentioned is second-class info, I won't google anything cause my time ain't infinite, but I'll spend an hour arguing about that" comes across pretty assholish. And btw, I'm arguing against the anti-intellectualism point of view specifically, not you personally.
No-one knows every word or every thing. But stumbling across something you don't know and figuring it out vs doubling down on your pride of not knowing it are pretty different behaviour patterns.
All I'm arguing for here is persistent curiosity vs ignorance.
I mean, you do you, but you didn’t get hate for “questioning social dogmas” (you didn’t question shit, btw), rather for flaunting your pride for ignorance and being an asshole about it. Rephrase your original statement as a question, and you’ll get zero hate.
It literally took you like 20x longer to have this conversation than it would’ve taken to google the answer. If you worry about your time not being infinite you should manage it better.
“I’m not anti-intellectual about every topic, only the ones I find iffy” is kinda exactly the point here. Everyone has first-priority topics of interest. The issue is being open to understanding other ones.
Edit: the mods deleted this person’s comments, and I disagree with that decision. If someone with a similar worldview stumbles upon such discussions and finds some point in other comments compelling enough to change their mind, that’s a positive result in my book. And removing the other point of view from the comments doesn’t allow people to find associations. The comments should have stayed.
It might be, or it might be not. Unfortunately you won’t know before googling/asking/etc. But hiding from stuff you don’t understand yet isn’t that good of a strategy in general.
It reads a lot like anti-intellectualism, and that never had a positive impact on societies.
That escalated it a lot, but the protests and strikes started way earlier with a pension reform that kinda robbed the people of 2 work-free years. And it wasn't even that applicable to most of the population, instead it unfairly targeted those who held some of the most physically demanding or damaging jobs. Macron doubled down, and then that traffic stop killing... so yeah, it's really not surprising that it escalated from there.
What didn’t help is that police has a long history of violence in general, see this article from 2016, for example. It’s been like this for a while.