elbucho @ elbucho @lemmy.world

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Same with "simpleton", "idiot", "feeble-minded", and "imbecile". It really is fascinating how language evolves.

Ah, a fellow "Cracking the Cryptic" lover, I see.

But, if they did that, how could they then show the world how much of a victim they are?

Also, I'm amusing myself by using they/them pronouns for this person because I am 100% certain they'd hate it.

This trial isn't about the sexual assault. That was already established in a previous case, where he was ordered to pay $5M in damages.

This trial is about him repeatedly calling her a liar, and other worse things when the memoir she had published in 2019 described the sexual assault. He's unsuccessfully attempting to argue that since he was president at the time, his actions as president should be immune from civil and criminal litigation.

I think that even if he and his attorneys weren't some of the dumbest people in the world, it would still be a very difficult position to prove. As it turns out, though, they are some of the dumbest people in the world, so there's no shot that that defense will work. And he doesn't exactly help his case by repeatedly claiming that Carroll was lying about the sexual assault, since that has already been established as fact by the court.

Edit: Very confused about the downvotes here. What am I missing?

I know what both are, but if we are to define what our government is, it would surely be a republic over a democracy.

Bro. It's both. It's literally just both. It is a republic AND a democracy. They don't cancel each other out or anything. Dying on this hill is really not helping your case that you're not an idiot.

I don’t luke how Trump handled the virus in every way, I’ll give you that one.

Right. Nor does anybody with a shred of common sense who didn't want hundreds of thousands of Americans to die for no good reason.

With hundreds being put in jail for non-insurrection charges

They stormed the capitol, assaulted police officers, and tried to stop the transfer of power of the government. They are all traitors, every single one of them. Stop defending them.

If I'm a district attorney, and I have someone on assault and treason, and assault is easier to prove, then I'm going to charge them with assault. Especially when there's hundreds of cases to process. That's just common fucking sense, something you apparently lack.

Critically think about it, do you really think Trump is the only one to do anything sketchy in politics?

He's the only president we've had who was an actual traitor. So that's notable.

It’s all a media and government circle jerk to make him unlikeable and ruin his name.

Yes, those pesky media and their recording devices that accurately record the things he says and does. It's their fault he's unlikable and his name is ruined.

The good thing is that It’s really is backfiring in a big way too because folks who can think critically see it’s the Democrats so scared of corrupt, vile Trump they need to talk about him even when Biden won.

He's a fucking traitor, you idiot. And he's the front-runner for the Republican party. He could be president again. It's fucking terrifying. Of course people are talking about him. If you motherfuckers had any sense of civic pride or patriotism, Trump would have zero chance of ever coming near any position of authority again for the rest of whatever remains of his life. But, of course, the Republican party is a hive of scum and villainy, and you would rather elect an actual traitor who has systematically grifted you for years than someone who thinks that trans people and gay people deserve civil rights.

Stock markets plunged, inflation went up,

Yes. That was definitely Joe Biden's doing, and not the global fucking pandemic that lasted for several years and caused enormous financial impacts on every country in the world. You fucking idiot.

I understand d you can be critical of both sides

Do you? Because I don't think you do. You seem totally cool with having a woefully unqualified, incompetent con artist who has already committed treason against the United States becoming president again. Seems to me like you wouldn't know critical thinking if it walked up and shoved its fist up your asshole.

I'm going to respond to this first, because I think it's the most succinct example of the point I'm about to make:

Secondly, our country is a republic, not a democracy–please lookup the Pledge of Allegiance.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think it's very unlikely that you know what either a republic or a democracy is. Because you seem to think that they're mutually exclusive, when in fact they are very much not. America, my slow friend, is a democratic republic. A republic is a political system in which a representative is given executive authority for a particular period of time. The "particular period of time" bit is what differentiates it from, say, a monarchy. Presidents in the US are elected every 4 years. This makes it a republic.

A democracy is a political system in which the populace as a whole is invested with the authority to vote on things. This can, and often does include representatives, such as a president.

So you see, America is both a Democracy AND a Republic, and the two are not mutually exclusive. There. Now that you've had the most basic of civics lessons that you as a potentially functional adult SHOULD HAVE ALREADY FUCKING KNOWN... let's get to the meat of what you replied with.

You mean to say that at the end of his term, a deadly virus hit the whole world and he couldn’t get a vaccine created in time to save everyone?

No. That would be stupid. Trump had no control over the virus any more than anybody else in the world did. And yet, he was the figurehead of the nation, and wielded executive authority that allowed him to take steps to mitigate its impact. This is the same for every other head of state in the world. So one has to ask why America did so poorly in its response to the virus compared to most of the rest of the world.

For starters, it's probably not a good thing that he routinely poo-pooed life saving measures, such as social distancing and masking. And it's also not a good thing that he promoted things like hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug that has zero proven benefits in relation to COVID. Additionally, I would argue that it was a bad thing that members of his administration sought to divert life-saving medical equipment such as ventilators from blue states.

The truth is, at every turn, Trump did the dumbest, most harmful thing possible. Remember that time he speculated openly on the mic about whether you could inject bleach or shove a light bulb up your ass to kill COVID? Good times. Or that time when he caught COVID, was rushed to Walter Reed where he received treatments not available to the rest of the public, and then he ordered his secret service guys to drive him around (while not masked) to show the world that "hey - COVID's no big deal!"

I could go on with more, but I doubt you're going to read anything I've written anyway. Your last paragraph is somehow dumber than the ones before it, which is impressive. You have shown yourself to have very little in the way of critical thinking skills, which means you'll believe even the dumbest lies out there. Like your idiotic belief that the Democrats refused the National guard when there is video of Nancy Pelosi urgently requesting National Guard support. Or your even more idiotic belief that George Floyd died of a drug overdose only after being choked for 9 minutes.

I mean, my god man. How stupid can you possibly be? Have you never been taught how to examine things critically? Just, for the love of fuck, pull your head out of your ass and look at the real world around you once in a while. You have been repeatedly lied to by the people you're defending, and you're too dumb to see it.

Ok, fair enough. I stand corrected. I suppose it is possible that someone out there could have missed every other thing Trump has said and done except for this clip and gotten a favorable impression of him. I will try to not be so narrow-minded going forward.

I hate this take so much. I see it all the time. "We can't kick Trump off the ballot! I mean, yes, he's a traitor, and yes he tried to overthrow the government, and yes we have a specific clause of a constitutional amendment that is meant to prevent traitors from assuming office again, but think of how much better it would be if he's allowed to run anyway and he loses???"

Ok. But what if he wins? If he wins, we can say goodbye to the form of government we've had for the last 250 years. That shit's out the window the second that traitorous fuck takes office. Gone. You really want to risk that just so that the optics are better?

That meteor was pretty fucking effective, though. Not one person on Earth ever voted for Meryl Streep's character again, I can assure you.

I mean, the writing was on the wall. Even before the election, he was saying things like: "Oh, they're gonna rig the election against me, folks", and his rhetoric was so toxic that at Republican debates, the moderators were asking him things like: "If you lose the election, will you abide by the peaceful transfer of power?" Which, of course, he didn't agree to.

I mean, yes, he hadn't actually incited people to try to overthrow the government at that point, but he very much was on record saying that that was his intention.

I love how you transphobes think that you know some stranger's internal life much better than they know it themselves. So fucking arrogant.

Press "X" to doubt.

You know, just placing "being a bigot" in quotation marks doesn't make you not a bigot. You are very much a bigot. Like, the very definition of one. So if you've got a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with Merriam-Webster.

I think that when a person with a relatively normal level of intelligence hears the word salad that Trump routinely strings together, their response is usually along the lines of: "What the hell is that idiot saying now?"

But when a MAGAT hears him speak, they think: "Well shit. I can't understand what he's saying, and I think I'm pretty smart, so he must be a genius!"

Exactly. And all of these commenters saying "Yes, well what if the person we're talking about is just media illiterate and doesn't pay attention to politics or has been incredibly successfully hiding under a rock for the last 8 years"... literally all someone has to do to determine that Trump is a horrible excuse for a human being is to read anything he's ever said or watch any of his appearances on camera. Any of them. Take your pick. If you can't clock that he's a fucking monster within 5 minutes of whatever clip he's in, then either you have no understanding of the difference between right and wrong, or you're dumb as hell. And if you do clock that he's a shithead and vote for him anyway, that makes you as bad as he is.

And hey, I get it. There are some incredibly stupid people in this world. But, like, 73.5 million people voted for that fat orange idiot in 2020. So it seems statistically unlikely that all of those people would fall into that category. For all, or even the majority of Trump's voters to not be shit human beings would be a statistical wonder.

I mean, unless you were one of the several hundred thousand people who died or lost loved ones to COVID for entirely preventable reasons. Or someone who's not a complete shit human being who actually cares about their country being a democracy. But yeah. If you are a shit human being and you believe that COVID was caused by 5G networks or something, then sure. Trump was a great president.

It's a cat toy. They didn't have laser pointers back then.

Good human.

I mean, let's be real here. Trump's 100% going to file an appeal no matter what Engoron does.