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  • Prompt engineering may be a form of expression, but the ai generated images composed of copying what it saw previously and repeating is not art. It has no humanity in it. The brush strokes have nothing to say. It is really no different than the wind blowing about cut-up versions of other people's art.

    If someone intentionally opens a window that allows the wind to blow in and shuffle up the cut-up art into a new image, that may be performance art, the act of opening the window. But the final result, which has no humanity to it, is not art. Will never be art.

    Prompt engineering is no different than opening that window and then letting the ai wind shuffle up everything it knew over and over until you find an esthetic you like. It's not art. It will never be art. Because it fundamentally can not be art.

  • I feel like this is a very modern problem with the community. I've been in open source for a long time, I've been employed by some of these companies to write open source things.

    Most open source stuff was created by someone who was employed to write that open source thing. There are exceptions, of course, but most things came about because of a need, and that need is often related to work. Companies used to be a lot better with allowing open sourcing of components.

    Then, there are all the community contributions that come from commercial reasons. If someone working at a company fixes a bug they encounter, that's someone being paid to write open source software.

    I do not understand the reaction people are having to this now. The open source ecosystem was built on this.

  • It's worth noting the vast gulf we are talking about here between the "self funded" indie studios and even A games, not even AA, just A.

    The self funded indie game made by one person in their spare time that 200 people play (and occasionally a standout hit that 8 million people play) really isn't under contention here. We're talking about the responsibilities when starting a business.

    We are not talking about making an AAA game, an equivalent of an MCU film (as those are limited to the deep pockets of large companies).

    Most companies that aren't making AAA games, are also taking funding because people have to make rent, and workers deserve to get paid a wage.

  • If you want, you can say that "prompt engineering" is an art. The act of engineering that prompts to get a picture, maybe that has a skill we might call art.

    But no, the jpeg isn't art. It's a million cut-up images formed to make our monkey brains go "I enjoy".

    Do you do this prompt engineering? The last time I had this conversation it turned out I was talking to someone that called themselves an artist because they put words into an ai.

  • Okay, but where's that money coming from? Someone has to upfront pay for things. Larian are lucky, they have a majory investor that was not looking for any control, they released in early access and had runway money from previous projects to go with. They are the exception, not the rule, unfortunately.

    Publishers no longer publish third parties for the most part, so everyone who isn't a subsidiary of a large company has to find funding somewhere.

  • If the wind blows, cut up pieces of art magazines around and then land in a pile. That isn't art. It's just cut-up pieces of someone else's art.

    If a person cuts up a magazine and pieces the parts together with intention and meaning. That can be art.

    Art is not "I like this visially", art is not "you did this well." Art is human expression.

  • If nature carves a stone to look pretty, that's not art.

    If a human carves a stone to look pretty, that's art. It has care and detail, it has something about humanity in it as it has a human behind it and everything that shaped them, shaped that stone.

    It's that simple. Ai can not make art no more than the wind can.

  • 1 Generally people want to work, people don't want to be exploited by capitolists for a capitolist society where they barely make rent humans are generally workers. 2. This isn't working less, this isn't productivity improvement. This is less humanity in art and all just so employers don't need to spend money on workers.

  • 30/60fps is always a developer choice. Not related to hardware capability.

    That being said, every generation console makers will make the most powerful hardware they can for the price point they are gonna charge. It's not exactly like Microsoft have any secret sauce here. It's the same amd/nvidia hardware choices for the price point they think they can sell at that anyone can make a machine with.

  • I think the people in this thread talking about cities' skylines are offbase. Cities skylines filled a vacuum, and simcity was already dead. Arguably, it was already dead before the reboot as their hadn't been a new entry in a decade.