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  • not only this, but I think most of the people moved by this song are middle class anyway, and they don’t view owning property as any sort of privilege. I’ve already gotten one guy going “well actually the bank technically owns it and he’s paying it off.” Like bruh, have you ever talked to an actual poor person?

  • so since liberals seem unable to hear dogwhistles

    • the 1935 social security act excluded industries which relied heavily on Black labor. 65% of the Black workforce was excluded from the initial Social Security program (and only 27% of white workers)
    • during the Great Migration, Black people began moving north and into urban centers, and started accessing welfare in higher numbers, which results in increasing hostility towards welfare programs
    • in the 60s, the welfare movement also begins to become associated with civil rights, with a Black, urban face of poverty, rather than the white, Appalachian face of poverty that was more common previously. This further adds to the growing backlash against welfare programs.

    https://www.newamerica.org/weekly/rise-and-reign-welfare-queen/

    • Most Americans see Black people as the face of the welfare system. Black people and undocumented immigrants are generally considered to be the largest welfare recipients. This is not true.
    • white people are less likely to support welfare when told that Black people might benefit from them

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/13/17460362/race-food-stamps-snap-farm-bill-2018-republicans-welfare

    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/7/17426968/white-racism-welfare-cuts-snap-food-stamps

    • Clinton's 1996 welfare reform gives states greater latitude in designing their own welfare systems. As you might imagine, this results in southern states with the highest Black populations dismantling their welfare systems and paying out the lowest benefits in the nation.

    https://jacobin.com/2016/10/clinton-welfare-reform-prwora-tanf-lillie-harden

    https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/why-it-matters-that-hillary-clinton-championed-welfare-reform/

    https://www.theroot.com/when-states-run-welfare-black-children-are-the-ones-wh-1790854181

    So, opposition to welfare is rooted in a history of racism. Most Americans, when they get upset about welfare recipients, are picturing an urban Black person. And welfare reform has historically been used to take benefits away from Black people. You might not think you're talking about race when you complain about welfare recipients or talk about welfare reform, but you can bet your ass most people in this country are. To complain about welfare recipients and talk about welfare reform (unless you're talking about expanding welfare) is to talk about race, even if you really are so innocent as to believe that you're not. For this reason we are talking about the song having "dogwhistles."

  • since he deleted it, here's what this loser wrote:

    250k isn't that much money. Maybe to you but to the average person it isn't.

    You don't even get how billionaires are made. LOL. They didn't take the profit from anyone. Amazon doesn't give a dividend.

    Their wealth is based on the value of the company which is truly arbitrary. Since people are not expecting to make money from a dividend, it's all made up.

    It is why Amazon could drop in value tomorrow if people felt it wasn't going to continue to climb in value. The only way to make money is still sell the shares.

  • TIL calling out racism is “insane”

    Post hog liberal

  • He’s not part of any downtrodden underclass, and he’s singing extremely basic and uncreative lyrics that make gestures towards working class issues while barely touching on any of those issues, all the while making sure to punch down on the “wrong” poor people. It’s petit bourgeois attitudes wrapped in redneck aesthetics made for comfortable middle class folk who feel “downtrodden” because taxes exist, welfare exists, and there are people who are richer than them. There is no solidarity with the actual working class. There are only aesthetic gestures made towards the working class so these middle class folk can delude themselves into believing they’re the salt of the earth and the backbone of the USA.

  • Lol…absolutely amazing. “He didn’t literally say he hates Black people so how could it be racist?”

    Do you understand what a dogwhistle is? And I now see the Isle of Man flag so maybe you’re not American, and I don’t know how common this sort of thing is in other countries-but this is literally just Reagan era welfare queen rhetoric. It’s an extremely common stereotype that depicts Black women as lazy non-contributing members of society that rely on public welfare and the tax money of “real hardworking [white] Americans” to support themselves.

    Go anywhere in the USA in the past 40 years and bring up welfare and you will undoubtedly get people who buy into this stereotype. Hell there are people in this thread who still buy into this. And yeah of course they aren’t explicitly racist because that’s looked down upon these days, but that’s always the subtext, that was the subtext 40 years ago and that’s the subtext today: “Why should I, a white person, have any of my money go to any Black person.”

  • Hahahaha so then don’t act like you don’t understand how it’s racist. The racism is what you like about it!

  • They’re dogwhistles. The parts about “the obese milkin welfare” and “taxes not ought to pay for your bags of fudge rounds.” Literally just Reagan era welfare queen rhetoric. If you don’t recognize those as racist dogwhistles you’ve been living under a rock for at least 40 years.

    But even if you don’t see the dogwhistles I hope you can understand how the song is punching down on poor people

  • Ah yes, the Apple Music top 100 charts, the objective decider of quality, how could I ever think to go against such a list

  • Someone here mentioned this dude lives in a camper as somehow proof of his working class bona fides. Yeah…he lives on 90 acres of land that he wants to build a farm on and raise livestock. Doesn’t exactly scream “working class.”

    Not that it matters. He could’ve written this song sitting down at the bottom of a mine at the end of his shift right before he was diagnosed with black lung and it still would’ve been a shitty racist song.

    Also has anyone looked into how this shit got so popular? At least Jason Aldean is a known guy so it makes sense that song got popular, but with all the talk of industry plants this Oliver Anthony guy feels extremely sus. Especially for some nobody living off the grid somewhere in the middle of Virginia

  • “Why don’t people want to listen to my racist song?”

    Also the song sucks

  • Yeah man, I live in a fucking nice apartment and make enough money that I can sit on my ass listening to racist fake bluegrass and posting on obscure Internet forums, my entire life rests upon a literal mountain of human suffering that I am blessed never to have to come into contact with. But you know what I’m really mad about? A homeless dude making $3.

    Post hog liberal

  • They’re drugs Michael, how much could they cost, $3?

  • “Let people have fun” and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

  • Ah, western culture

    Edit: I watched the video and the op actually does misrepresent it. Both Tom Scott and another interviewee both separately mention the origin of it. Also, I thought it was going to be folks just pegging pennies at each other on street corners, but no it’s a one day festival that people willingly participate as Pennie’s are tossed from balconies in an organized manner.

    So although the origins are shit, it doesn’t seem to be the worst thing. The main issue I can see is safety. Tom Scott gets hurt at one point, and at another says “I hope I don’t get hurt.” You can see a couple shots of people covering their heads in the crowd, and Tom Scott also notes one of the throwers is not tossing pennies but rather throwing them down on people. One of the interviewees even says “we just have to hope nobody gets hurt.” So sort of fucked up, I probably wouldn’t participate, but not the worst thing that exists