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It is what it is. Let the evidence speak for itself, never let your emotions or what you desire to be true cloud your judgment.

If it makes you feel any better, the reality of Biden and Harris being equally complicit in genocide as Trump reveals that the same people were in charge under the last Democrat administrations as well. It is in fact a simulation, a simulation of a Republican-run fascist takeover, when in reality the system was already completely compromised, and this is just an ideological pretext to expand authoritarian control.

There is no solution for a population voting incorrectly than for them to correct their behavior. You have no point.

Tariffs raise prices. That's kinda their thing.

What democracy? We've been living in a police state our entire lives. Talk about a dangerous way of thinking, ffs, how many hundreds of thousands of people were murdered under the Bush administration alone, and you act like that was just healthy democracy? Why were Bush and Obama on the same page about the erosion of our civil liberties and global imperialism? I swear, some of you are just miles from the correct explanation.

Only in terms of "but this would have happened if you voted for something else", the logic of which equally applies to the sum of Harris voters voting for somebody who, simultaneously, (a) had substantially less votes in the final outcome, but also (b) was so extremely evil that they're complicit in a genocide. Or is that too hard for you to wrap your head around.

There's enough to tell.

"Duverger's Law" (you misspelled it) is a principle, not some deterministic physical law. I studied polisci at college, thanks. Read your own link. First sentence - "TEND to emerge". Not "always emerge". There's an entire section in the article named "Exceptions". One of those exceptions is IN the U.S. Learn the difference between "tendencies" and "absolutely certain physical laws", this is basic logic/math.

This kind of sloppy thinking is so common in the U.S., I swear to god, this is exactly what I'm talking about with the shitty education system kneecapping the democracy.

If he's leaving over Trump, odds are good he's on the saner half of US drivers. The real road ragers with their emotional issues probably the most likely to fall for the rage-based fascist propaganda and all that.

Let me rephrase it. You are not meeting the standards of research required to effectively participate in a democracy.

FPTP doesn't naturally evolve into a two-party system. Cultural predispositions cause that. The electoral college does not enshrine it, it - sometimes - hands the elector votes to the majority winner of the state, and some states even have legal pledges to follow other systems. There is no impossibility. I will repeat myself for the fiftieth time in this thread, THE PUBLIC'S SELF-DEFEATING MENTALITY IS THE PROBLEM. The public TELLS ITSELF a third party is an impossibility, the public DOESN'T VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY. You will resign yourselves to slavery until you figure this out.

There is no legal enshrinement of a "two party system". Whoever the public votes for wins. The public's self-defeating mentality is the problem.

^ This speaks to a lack of civics education. Without an overwhelming majority, Congress can't pass harmful legislation with an executive veto, and the executive can still halt its implementation.

Gridlock is better than streamlined totalitarianism. Vote for them in both. And courts weren't really partisan before ~2010.

The public choosing to vote for a different party wins in a FPTP system regardless. The obstacle is the public.

Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.

People like you tend to protest by not voting at all, or voting third party (which is essentially the same under our current structure). If we had compulsory voting, I highly doubt Trump would have won.

No single drop of water blames itself for the flood. There are 240 million eligible voters, who all have the choice, collectively and individually, to vote for ANYONE. Somehow you are all completely incapable of blaming the entire group for its continual decisions to vote for war criminals and genociders. Rather, you completely invert the blame onto those who DON'T vote for those people. Literally, you ignore the blame for the only people actually responsible, and instead blame the only people NOT responsible. Given the massive efforts to brainwash the public regarding this political system, it's nearly impossible to not see this as a product of brainwashing as well, because this self-defeating pattern completely neuters any attempt for real political change.

By the way, the Senate just voted 99-0 to confirm Marco Rubio. Including Bernie Sanders, Van Hollen, Booker, Warren, every Democrat. https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00008.htm Explain that to me once you get done explaining how the Democrats are really the underdog opposition.

Trust me, we all get that both options weren’t optimal, but we don’t get an optimal option. We get 2 options, and one is usually better than the other. If we keep picking the better one, over time things improve.

Also, no, they fucking don't. The system presenting you with these manufactured options continually clamps down its chokehold on the world as you continue on in your delusion of political choice. It absolutely boggles my fucking mind how after a year and a half of open genocide you think there's some kind of autonomy between the Democrats and Republicans.

"Figured", "probably" - these are not the levels of certainty you should have on your conclusions regarding a genocide.

How about "I'm the only one of you actually judging this godforesaken system objectively, by its merits, which are nonexistent".

Your depiction of "the choices" is factually incorrect. The population had the ability to run with any candidate whatsoever. You "chose" (or rather, were handed) two war criminal psychopaths to vote for.

You are in a prison of your own creation.

The popularity of both of the imperial genocidal candidates is the result of centuries of conditioning and the collapse of the education system and free press. It's a cyclical problem. We vote them in, they keep us stupid, we vote them in again.