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If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • I'll clearify my concept. If you could possibly take a midle age theologist and teleport him to the current age, they'd be total nerds and not priests.

    Clergy back then was studying, and studying and studying and exploring reality in a framework that gave for granted that God exixts. You can call it whatever you want but I think it's a bit silly to reduct it to "those dumb fucks belong to the mines", while in reality it through their efforts that, unwillingly (?), we pursued knowledge to the point of refining modern science methodology.

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • Nothing "makes" you anything. Questioning and exploring existence can look very different in different ages.

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  • Because branding exists.

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • Also known as scientists.

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • Back in the days they were just philosophers aka scientists.

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • That's the one, funnily enough in a perverted twist, they tend to see wealth as a sign that God has picked them as favourites (graced them) and they storically gravitated toward seeing poor people as, well, sinners, even thought their principles state that anyone could be graced or not no matter the more evident aspects of life.

    • I make games and this literally happened to me this morning

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  • Do they just, make the money disappear if you don't reach the 50 or do they add up till you reach 50?

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • No, not really, it's mostly a matter of power.

    The Church itself is rooted in the idea that there are autorities on matter of faith and they adopted the Platonical Agostinean idea that faith is empowered by reason. Reason being a valid tool means you have experts that reasoned a lot about religion and people that know less and needs to be taught, ultimately by the Pope.

    The "other" side tends to reject authorities, and take the words of the bible as sobjected to personal interpretation or, to an extent, make it into some sort of magical object that the faithfull subjects itself to, without questions. Accepting the contradictions, the illogal parts, are what that kind of faith is about because to question (throught reasoning) God is a Sin.

    • If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine?

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  • Unironically the question by witch many Christian faiths differ: does God needs abide to the rules of logic or not?

    For the Roman Catholic, yes, for Calvinists and a bunch other (ok, many other but I'm not an expert), no.

    • Do you dislike HR in workplaces?

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  • They are basically cops. And the analogy holds on many level including that yes, some can genuinely be on your side and try to help you or fix the system from the inside, in a way, but it's pretty much "luck based", you have no foolproof way to tell one from the other.

    The wise strategy is to be your own HR, study the contracts and the laws. If you go in blind trusting HR you can be lucky and have a good happy professiona life or get fucked.

    Knowing also helps dramatically in undestanding where HR can realistically help, where it can harm and where it is going beyond expectations and is on your side.

    Don't expect them to put you above their own survival though...

    • Hubris

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  • It's not a habit I make a conscious effort from october to january every year.

    • Hubris

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  • I have some bad news about the status of the afterlife.

    • We Finally Know What Creates Static Electricity, After Thousands of Years

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  • Oh I assure you Timmy once you grow up you'll appreciate friction ;) ;)

    • We Finally Know What Creates Static Electricity, After Thousands of Years

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  • Maybe I went to bad schools, maybe my country has a dysfunctional education system, but I suspect the matter is widespread because it's way easier to teach factual information rather than dive into the nuances of how confident we are about our explanations.

    Some reductive examples: Pluto is / is not a planet, wings work because the path air takes is longer than on the other side, the cause for this war was xyz, you can't subtract below 0 (that's at a very early age of course), this philosopher thought X.

    Oh I guess a CRUCIAL one is how most teachers are horribly unfit to answer "Why should I care about this?", but that's beside the point, in a way.

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  • You broke nothing, it just annoys me that if you don't hit university they refuse to teach you the unconfortable truth on plenty of things and you come out of school with a biased idea that everything has been explained already (history, math, physics...).

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  • So the generic "particles just rubs" in the texbooks were lies and they didn't know shit?

    • I don't care if you don't get this joke because I think it's hilarious.

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  • What the fuck is going on in here?

    • Dude there's like a whole book on this thing

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  • Proto phone that sends only short strings of text.

    • What is your greatest artistic achievement that doesn't fall under what most people would think of when they hear the word "art"?

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  • 0 effort and yet alive.

    • What a prompt

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  • Or they met one that fed them.