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27? Last time I checked 2025 is 2 years away and 2035 is 12 years away.

crime What crime?

Waiting 2 hours is solved by installing more chargers

Again, how will a town of 25k people that can barely maintain street lights and roads be able to afford 15 thousand chargers?

9 trolleybus lines, 3 of which I know have about 1/3rd without trolley wires at the end so buses go on battery/diesel

Unless we get mass producable, cheap fuel like CHOOH2, "cars can use co2 neutral fuels" is translation to "in reality no ICE cars for the mass population"

Secondly, chargers near apartment buildings and on sidewalks can be added. We have plenty of time.

And who will pay for those? My town can barely get enough money to maintain street lights, who will install and maintain the charging infrastructure on streets where it will inevitably get destroyed?

And finally, those who can’t charge at home will do so at the charging stations.

Oh yes, so now instead of 15 minute wait at a gas station I will only have to wait 2 hours before a space is available and then 30 minutes to charge, all while thinking "how much is this quick charge degrading my battery"

I'm aware an ICE car requires more maintenance. But, two things. My gas tank doesn't get smaller over time and good luck taking your Tesla or Chevy Bolt to an unauthorized repair shop and let them try to fix anything without access to OEM diagnostic tools. Yes, new ICE cars are also full of this bullshit, but hey, my 20 year old ICE car isn't!

Fortunately riots aren't an issue in my city

You are free to think so, but it's hard to screw up something that worked for months and without any configuration changes breaks itself

The whole thing about trolleybuses is that they don't pollute inside of the city. Obviously that pollution still happens somewhere, but it isn't under your nose.

Trolleybuses are the best compromise because they can (and in my country/city do) work as diesel/battery buses

Obviously diesel burns and batteries don't really explode, but the only way to put out an EV fire is to dunk the car for a few days in a tub of water. And how many of those will a fire department have? 1-5?

Europe or the rest of the world is doing Are you talking about public transit or Germany banning gas and diesel cars EU wide all while also getting rid of the best source of electricity, essentially making individual vehicle transportation for common folk a thing of the past?

Missed opportunity not have these as 3rd rail trolleybuses on these segments

Nuclear is about to go away FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK German government

Sure, that replacement time isn't 4 but 15-20 years (well, except early Leafs that didn't have battery temperature management of any kind), but my 20 year old car's gas tank fits just as much gas as it did 20 years ago.

I'm Czech and my city has a trolleybus network. Every single trolleybus has either a) diesel engine or b) battery backup, depends on their age. Hell, there are even entire lines where 1/3rd they run on batteries. But, they can be smaller, so the vehicle is lighter.

I'm very aware of that Tom Scott video, don't worry. It is an okay middleground, but look at the people in comments pointing out the wear on the trolley.

Can't wait for miles of 240V extension cords when EU makes even used non EVs illegal. Yes, millions of city dwellers in apartments totally have a garage to charge in.

Tell that to firefighters.

I see it the other way. Trolleybuses (with either battery or diesel backup) are the best of both worlds. Much cheaper to built (compared to a tram) and doesn't pollute in the city (compared to a full diesel bus)

Gasoline and diesel can be extinguished relatively easily. Extinguishing an EV means throwing it into a tub of water for a day or two

Steel rails have even less friction