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We learn by reading copyrighted material.

We are human beings. The comparison is false on it's face because what you all are calling AI isn't in any conceivable way comparable to the complexity and versatility of a human mind, yet you continue to spit this lie out, over and over again, trying to play it up like it's Data from Star Trek.

This model isn't "learning" anything in any way that is even remotely like how humans learn. You are deliberately simplifying the complexity of the human brain to make that comparison.

Moreover, human beings make their own choices, they aren't actual tools.

They pointed a tool at copyrighted works and told it to copy, do some math, and regurgitate it. What the AI "does" is not relevant, what the people that programmed it told it to do with that copyrighted information is what matters.

There is no intelligence here except theirs. There is no intent here except theirs.

This many chiefs (not rank-and-file, chiefs), putting this much effort into breaking Navy protocol, together, is crazy. And for what? Memes?

I know deployment at sea can be boring but Jesus fucking Christ, read a damn book or something.

I'm shocked I had to come down this far to find this.

They're talking about bots, but that doesn't in any way sound abnormal. People downvote comments like that all the time for their own satisfaction.

For example, imagine a post where three users comment:

One posts a heated stream of idiocy, falsehoods, and outright nastiness, thinly veiled bigotry and other garbage. Paragraphs of it, all poorly written.

Another is some basic comment not saying anything of any real consequence. Completely mundane to the point no one has upvoted it, but it is perfectly harmless.

The final is a comment with some meat on it and something to add to the conversation, but unfortunately they arrived too late to the thread. No one saw it, so no one upvoted it.

Without downvotes, all three of these comments are treated exactly the same.

I get downvotes can suck sometimes but they're a valuable aspect to this system and removing them does not make the place better.

I'd argue what people need to do if these things are genuinely bothering them is turn off the scores entirely and learn to live without them. It's better for your mental health.

Will provide singular answers, with no sources, that no one else can see and therefore no one else can fact check, correct, or improve upon.

Then, instead of being posted publicly for others to find and searches to index, those answers will disappear into the ether, so that no other users get that answer unless they too do an AI search from the same provider.

And all of this at the expense of every website and content creator who no longer even gets seen in a search engine, let alone page views. At the expense of every writer whose words will never be seen, only thrown in a pile of words and remixed, then vomited back out. And at the expense not the environment that will suffer to power all of this wasteful, needless garbage.

This is going to be a disaster for the internet as a whole, and it's really sad how many people can't understand this. Tech bros continue to fundamentally misunderstand what makes the internet valuable isn't code, it isn't "data", it's humans.

Not only does it still exist, newgrounds is unique in that it is a long-running website from the early days that is still being run by the same person (never bought out or sold), still has no ads (despite funding issues), still has the same basic focus, still hosting the same content, and is still more or less exactly the same despite some UI changes.

Granted part of that is there hasn't been any real pressure on it, but still.

Genuinely, it is the kind of thing that I would want to put behind glass, because it is an abnormality in this wasteland we call the internet. It's this beautiful little corner that has been allowed to remain as it is, unmolested by the terrible bullshit around it.

There aren't any good search engines anymore, because there isn't a good internet anymore. SOE has buried the internet's wealth of information and centralization starved out all the spaces where information used to be. Hell half the forums that used to appear in search results aren't even online anymore, and live only in the way back machine (which doesn't come up in results).

There's so little to find anymore compared to the halcyon days of search engines we remember.

I was banned from /r/grindr for suggesting it's ok for trans people to use it. It's legitimately one of the most blatantly, unapologetically terrible mods I've ever seen, and it's just him.

Cat drama in particular seems to always hit maximum outrage really fast.

Because what you consider a fact is based on studies that don't provide as compelling evidence as you want to believe they do.

Generally speaking, it's probably best to not do it, but calling it outright abuse requires evidence that it is causing actual harm, and the scientific consensus on it is not as solid as you think it is.

Recent academic review of many past studies have found that it's inconclusive.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

Basically, we need more studies before we can start deleting shit on accusations of animal abuse.

They were supposed to destroy these when they closed the locations, to prevent exactly this.

Which is a tall order for minimum wage restaurant workers. The fuck they gonna do? Take it down to the local steel mill and T2 it?

Posting an article about something and then using it plug something else alongside it is the kind of deliberate spam mods should be removing, no matter what software they're plugging.

Are you a bot or just this uninformed?

Firefox has extensions and isn't chromium. Only a fool thinks a Chromium browser will stay friendly to extensions after Manifest 3.

This is a new thing that smaller towns are trying to do to take advantage of an increase in remote work.

The meme is also misleading because it's implying that this is something they're giving to everyone that moves there for a limited time, when it is only 10 people. It's also implying that there's not enough people there to pay taxes, which doesn't actually make sense because that's not how taxes work. There would definitely be enough tax income if they didn't care about the future of the town. What they're trying to do is revitalize the area and trigger growth, and they need more income to fund that revitalization.

We're talking local here, not national.

Even if they started taxing the rich, there wouldn't be many to tax in the area.

The median household income in Cumberland was $47,235 in 2021, which marked an an increase of 903(1.95%) from $46,332 in 2020. This income is 63.31% of the U.S. median household income of $74,606 (all incomes in 2022 inflation-adjusted dollars).

Top 5%: The mean household income for the wealthiest population (top 5%) is 302,286, which is 173.49% higher compared to the highest quintile, and 3113.14% higher compared to the lowest quintile.

https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/cumberland-md-median-household-income/#income-by-quintile

$300,000 is upper middle class, just barely enough to maybe call "rich". Even so, it's likely the only reason they live there is low taxes. We're not talking national taxes here, this is local, and they can be absolutely sure if they locally tax those wealthier people any more than they are, they'll move away.

They absolutely should do that, and give a firm middle finger to the back of the wealthy assholes as they move to their new mansion in whatever backwater they're moving to next, but it doesn't solve the inherent problem: the tax base is too small and too poor.

This is just a mountain town that has died slowly after the death of industry there post World War II, and frankly there is no good way to save it because there's no way to convince anybody to take their industries up there. The state can subsidize it but it's not going to grow.

What they're doing here is trying to use the new changes in remote work to potentially trigger a revitalization and expand the tax base. Even then, they're only giving it to 10 individuals, not anybody that moves there as the meme is implying. It may work, but I have my doubts.

It was the lose of jobs as industry moved away, a trend started after WW2.

The culture probably helped but it's a much larger trend than people simply not wanting to live in a conservative town.

No, it's to attract people with jobs. Explicitly.

I'm not sure why there's all this guessing and pontificating going on in here, you can just look the story up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/30/cumberland-maryland-revival/

Why are we assuming all work from home jobs require fiber?

This is explicitly for full-time remote workers.

As part of a broader effort to recapture some of the city’s former vitality, Cumberland is hoping to take advantage of the pandemic shift to remote work by giving $20,000 to 10 home buyers who promise to invest in those properties and become part of the community.

[...]

It’s really to attract people who will benefit your community,” said Cumberland City Council member Laurie Marchini. “It’s not a social services program; it’s to bring people in who are employed.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/30/cumberland-maryland-revival/

I'd take that bet.

I would love to believe the situation is as you believe it is, but I just don't see it.

As others have said, the usage on old reddit appears to be exceedingly low, around 1-2% if developers are seeing it accurately.

We know that the vast majority of all usage nowadays is mobile, or at least hybrid. And at least half of those mobile users are on iphones, where they have no choice. The only thing that keeps old.reddit working on my phone is Firefox extensions.

The unfortunate truth is the reason reddit and so many other platforms get away with rampant enshitification is that the overwhelming majority of users are either incapable or unwilling to find ways around it if it requires a modicum of effort or results in a slightly less polished experience. They just accept it and become increasingly angry and frustrated with the platform, but refusing to do anything else except continue to use it.

Developers see these numbers and they plan for it. They getting extremely condescending about it, too. Why listen to the "vocal minority" of technically inclined power users when you can pay attention to the majority of silent people who accept literally anything because they have to.

Gone are the days where the majority of your users are going to be tech savvy. When your user base was made up of informed, technical users on desktops, what you did with your software or your site would directly affect your numbers. Those users knew how and were willing to try other things if you fucked around.

Nowadays, with phones in everyone's pocket, your user base is everyone, and unfortunately for all of us, that everyone includes the majority of people who will drink a shit sundae over and over again before they will even consider going to different restaurant.

It's not actually a captive customer base, but it effectively is. They're just held captive by their own tech illiteracy and lack of patience. What those people do determines the future of the industry now.