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We're an ingenious and motivated bunch (See all the Redhat attempts to stop clones, and lots of other examples), so yes, I think we'd absolutely work around the problem if it was to happen.

Point? I was replying about Mint and Ubuntu - what has Fedora got to do with them?

Well, all the distros being discussed are open source - it's kind of a requirement when making a linux distro because the licences require it and you wouldn't be able to make it closed source. (Unless there's a huge shift in the law)

And being open source doesn't necessarily prevent it falling under sanctions legislation. I have seen a linux distro being legally required to "take reasonable steps" to geo-block Russian access to its repos, and I've personally read disclaimers when installing linux that "This software is not allowed to be used in Russia". (That distro is 'owned' by an organisation that was controlled by a single person, so it's probably not comparable to Debian) We're all technical people so we can all probably think of half a dozen ways around that, but it was still ordered by the US Government (even before the current government)

And you may be right in that it would be excempt. Debian isn't owned by anyone, but its trademark is(Software in the Public Interest), and it feels possible that those who help distribute foss (by mirroring repos for example) may be restricted if they fall under US jurisdiction. I don't know for certain - and unless someone here is a qualified lawyer specialising in software licences as well as how software rooted in the US relates to sanctions - we're all probably guessing.

Three months ago any of this would have felt ridiculous - who would want to stop free software? But now? In this era of the ridiculous? I certainly feel unsure about predicting anything.

Why restrict it to EU and not Europe?

Or better still, somehow make it universal and not subject to the whims of one political nutbar.

Mint and Ubuntu have Debian as an upstream, don't they?

Debian is a US legal entity, so if it was required to sanction countries, it feels that software built with it would likely be restricted.

Most distros, not all, are based in, or run by, American legal entities.

Redhat, Rocky, Alma, Debian, etc - all legally American. This is a problem if the US requires sanctions against another country. All of those cannot legally supply products to Russia now, but in the future who's to say what other countries the US will sanction? People are only now starting to realise that sanctions can be applied to software too, and many countries are entirely reliant upon US Software. (Seriously, do a quick audit - 90% of our tech company's stack is US originated)

Alternatives: Suse (German) Ubuntu (UK, but based on Debian, so likely subject to supply chain restrictions).

That would increase the prices in the exporting countries. It's not as if there's such a huge surfeit that they're being destroyed.

I know - it's exhausting.

All social and news streams are absolutely being flooded by American politics right now. It's mad and crazy stuff, but there's only so much someone can take before it really starts to affect ones mental state.

And Lemmy partially started as a not-reddit, so I guess it's normal that people come to vent.

So - positive stuff you can do!

Subscribe to more communities that do interest you. Leave less space for the other stuff to come in. You can also block communities from your main feed very easily if you're being given stuff you don't want from them.

Youtube (with adblock) is hardly affected (or if it is, I don't see it). That brings lots of interesting and creative content.

Going out into the world if you're able. Reconnecting with nature, and also being reminded that people, by and large, are usually nice to you if you're nice to them.

And I've been picking up old games and playing them more. Escapism is not such a bad thing.

Like the bots aren't already scraping every website all the time anyway.

In unrelated news, hate is reduced across the world.

This sounded good and it says it reports global news, but every story on the front page is US centric?

Do you ever compare it to news outside of your region?

About ten separate sources. A little bit of right, a little bit of left, some national, some international. I find this really exposes the bias some sources put on stories, and after a while you can tell which source it is just by words used in the headline and even by what news they don't report.

Some good suggestions in this thread, I'll be adding some new feeds.

the reality is that every Chinese company is ultimately controlled by the CCP.

Yes.

But in the same way that every US company is ultimately controlled by the US Government. And every EU company by them. And every other country by their own government.

Mostly tiktok scrolling. It's got a bad rep, but there's a huge amount of seriously talented people on there doing amazing and creative things. I'm a 50-something year old guy and it quickly figured out I like videos about mine explores and restoring vintage vehicles. Once you learn to downvote stuff you don't like, it's quick to learn and aside from the comment bots or obvious trolls (Typically pro-Russian or Pro-Trump, if there's a difference) it's generally a positive thing, in moderation.

I totally get your desire about avoiding socials and have experienced the mood swings it can bring too. That's made me quite tuned into how the algorithms are steering me. For me (and everyone's experience is different) - Facebook is mostly bland generic stuff but quite useful for local content - just avoid the drama llamas), and use an advert blocker. Reddit is mixed. I used to be on there a lot and contributed and modded a bunch of stuff, but quit for a year after spez screwed over the app people. I skim it a bit now, but don't give it much mind. X is awful, won't go near it. Lemmy is less of a shitpost zone than most but still has too few people to be significant. We're all helping with that though.

Lemmy aside, I think most algs will figure you out pretty quick. If you get involved in nasty commenting, it'll feed you more of that. If you do the odd positive thing (as I try to) then it can be less toxic - but with all things, remember why you're there. The more you feed it, the bigger to you it becomes. Balance is important, and be aware of how stuff is affecting you.

Anyway, beyond TT, crosswords, some news sites and the occasional candy crush.

Good question though, I'm reading other comments as it's harder to find stuff outside of the main channels now.

But then he'll just pardon them - they all know they have a get of jail free card.

I was curious so I took a closer look at Sheltermanager and, honestly, I'm very impressed. They have a free demo on their site so you can show it off to people and see if there's any interest.

And agree, self-hosting doesn't sound like it would suit them or you, but you asked in an opensource thread and that is nearly always self-hosted. SM looks quite fairly priced for a hosted solution.

That's their decision, but it's very unlikely. Like much bespoke software that's evolved over a long time, it was a pretty messy codebase, and also mostly in perl and was entirely written to their exact needs. It worked because of me, which was a curse because they were unable to find another person to support it after I left.

It's a shame that doesn't exist yet. I was in your position for a horse charity 25 years ago and couldn't find anything either. I ended up writing them such a system, which grew and grew. Sadly it was owned by them and replaced a couple of years ago.

Is sheltermanager not suitable for self hosting? They claim to be open source

Thats's a shame, I always considered brother one of the better makers of paper manglers.