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  • The historical record is also replete with horrible shit men have done to other men. Doesn't mean I will cower in fear if I meet a random man, nor would I rather encounter a dangerous wild animal.

  • I've been through this. People rarely encounter bears. They encounter men all the time. Of course there is more violence from men, but I would argue more surprise encounters with bears end badly than encounters with men. And rape is hardly the only violence that can befall a woman.

    But why bother? All of us men are disgusting rapists, apparently. Guess I should be like Shrek and retire to my swamp if everyone will just be afraid of me. Too bad I don't actually have one.

  • If you are not targeting all men, stop talking about men as one generalized body.

    Sorry, when you say “I’d rather encounter a bear than a man” it sure as hell sound like you are saying all men are dangerous. If that isn’t what you are saying, you are saying it poorly.

  • I don’t think it’s lived experience for many. Much of it is fear impressed by others. And I’ve certainly felt fear at being alone with the wrong woman, or a child. One false accusation and my life is over. I actively avoid being alone with women and children. But that doesn’t mean I’m picking bears over people.

  • It’s what it says to me and many of us. Perhaps it’s the messaging.

    What do you mean what behaviors? I don’t harass women. I barely talk to people I don’t know. But yet people are still scared of me.

    And I would 100% pick a catholic priest. What a dumb choice. And, yeah, you are accusing everyone.

  • then you'd know it's not about you.

    It absolutely is. You are saying no man, myself included, is safe. That no matter what good we might do individually, we will always be viewed as monsters. Can you not see why men find that hurtful?

  • You do realize there are harms other than rape? You sure don’t seem to get that. You think rape is the only tragedy that can befall a woman.

    I am no creep. But I am pissed that you think that the mere fact I have a penis means I’m some awful rapist women should be afraid of.

    But you know what, since bears are so safe, why don’t you go have a nice encounter with a hungry mother grizzly.

  • You have no understanding of statistics. How many more men does the typical woman encounter a day than bears? I’m willing to bet women encounter dozens or even hundreds of men, but pretty well zero bears. The RATE of bear attack per encounter is much higher than the rate per encounter with men.

    And this hypothetical man is a stranger, whereas 8 out 10 rapes are committed by someone the victim knows.

    Your argument makes no sense. Sorry, anyone who thinks they are safer with a random large wild carnivore that has sharp teeth and claws than a random human male is foolish.

    And, yes, you are implying that all men are rapists. After all, the statement isn’t that you merely don’t FEEL safe, but that you are not safe, period in the presence of a man. Therefore it is implied the man will 100% harm you.

  • It saddens me that the default interpretation of this is accusatory

    It’s saying men are inherently unsafe to be around. How is that not accusatory?

    This isn’t about women’s safety versus men’s feelings, it’s about women’s feelings (of safety) versus men’s feelings (of respect).

  • The tangible benefit is getting the job. Sorry, I see this BS, I’m not even bringing you in for the interview.

    And yes, we have an HR department. I want to pick the people we work with, not just let people that don’t know what a civil engineer does hire.

  • Boo freaking ho. If you’re too lazy to copy and paste some basic information into an online form, I don’t want to hire you anyway. Also discourages people from trying to apply for hundreds or thousands of jobs they are not even qualified for.

    The fact is I’m an engineer, not an HR employee. I have a job other than reviewing resumes. And the absolutely will meet me if they meet the requirements. I’ll interview them. If they don’t, they are wasting both our time.