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Who would have guessed a site called "countylocalnews" reporting on happenings in the red sea would lie?

OP should really show some more discrimination with their sources. The name alone gives it away as likely an AI mill prone to falsities by virtue of plagiarizing anything it can find or inventing it.

Happy Birthday and glory forever to Comrade Stalin!

No it won't. World is in full ignore it mode and unless you start seeing people falling over dead in place on the streets in public in larger numbers like some zombie movie they're going to continue to do that and treat it like the flu which means washing hands a bit more, avoiding standing too close to anyone wheezing and coughing violently and otherwise continuing on without a second thought. Those who get sick will get sick, those who die will die and that's just the price of freedom for westerners who decided to let this become permanent.

China should counter offer something sweeping in terms of access and cooperation that they’ll never allow. It’ll make scientists of any conscience in the US even more uneasy with their country when it’s rejected and make the US look more pathetic on the whole.

I wish I could take joy, please do so in my stead comrade.

He's definitely in the category of world would have been better off if he'd been hit by a bus at 17.

I got banned from there ages ago for some bullshit reasons, I think I upset a mod or something.

They're all about that left unity too which means I've seen comrades less careful than myself banned for taking a swipe at anarchists or ultras.

Honestly, pretty toxic place to just go there and stare are horrible takes from horrible people. My mental health improved a bit when I got banned and stopped browsing it.

It's all posturing and for the audience.

Yet even this half-measure is still more than Israel will accept, allowing China to slyly paint them as unreasonable through their in-actions and intransigence and unwillingness to engage in the UN mandated actions which have international law (as toothless as it is) behind them which are themselves a compromise between what's just and the reality on the ground.

At the end of the day China calling for this or calling for the complete removal of zionists by force and the destruction of Israel and establishment of Palestine will have the exact same effects on the ground: zero.

One however allows China to continue to appear diplomatic, reasonable, impartial, law-abiding and win countries over to its side in the coming struggle with the west.

Fact is (and China knows this I'm sure) nothing is going to change until the US makes them change, until US pulls support or forces something through or breaks off the relationship and allows Israel to be isolated and boycotted like apartheid South Africa.

And China can not reasonably do anything to force such a change from the US. It is entirely the purview of those in the US and broader west to try and force the issue through protest, actions, disruptions, etc, to build a critical mass of resistance to paralyze and shut down support for the zionist occupiers. Of course doing so could very well precipitate a real crackdown and increased violence of the state and fail but we must stand with the Palestinians and must seize this chance to weaken the imperialist machine, to educate, agitate, etc.

Any pressure US protests can put on the US regime will do a thousand times more to make the zionists hesitate than any amount of anger or belligerent language from China.

There is a danger with internet brash who have neither power, nor the responsibility to use it for the benefit of hundreds of millions, a billion humans to exercise it who deign to lecture Xi on this. Who rashly rush to say 'fuck him' or as the ultras and succ-dems would do say it proves he's not really a Marxist, a communist, a comrade.

I suppose they'd prefer he drop his pants, take a shit on a picture of Kissinger and end his video message with a middle finger as if that would be anything but self gratifying behavior. And it is the habit of many in the west to engage in self-gratifying thinking, actions, and even useless self-flagellation because power is nowhere near them. This is the risk, the siren call of ultra-leftism, the divorce of some imagined purity from reality for those so far from being able to engage in practice on the level of an in power party.

It's natural but it needs to be tempered and controlled by reason.

Kissinger was a mass murderer but he was only so because of the system he had power in incentivized, encouraged, allowed it. I'm not saying he was a good human, he objectively was not and did nothing to try to stop the machine, rather lovingly oiling it. However he also objectively did things that were positive for China's development from their point of view. Was in some ways more restrained and reasonable with peer powers than many of his students who unfortunately now hold sway. In his latter years he after all thought the Ukraine policy was a mistake, that Russia had real legitimate concerns about NATO encroachment that far east, and continued to act in favor of maintaining openness with China, perhaps only out of vanity because it was seen as his crowning achievement but he did so none-the-less and China would do well, does well to encourage everyone who wants that openness.

Kissinger was an important cog but he was just a cog in a machine. He didn't seek to change its nature and was criminal of course on that count and on running millions to their deaths as a mass murderer. But in the international business of diplomacy the purview of diplomatic functions is not to engage in ruthless, religious, zealous purity testing but to do what you can with what you have. And when it comes to the stinking barrel of rotting apples that is the US trying to find a good one anywhere near the levers of power is a fool's errand, all of them have blood on their hands, care not for the proletariat, use human beings as fodder and grist for the machine. Thus those in power in other nations reach for one less rotten in ways that matter to them. At least that's the Chinese approach and I think we owe it to them to support them as they are still standing and succeeding while the USSR (which was much more confrontational) is not.

History after the revolution will likely judge Kissinger just one of a large handful of rotten, murderous, genocidal imperialists and that perhaps is the greatest slight we can give to him in death, to make him less of this towering power and assign him his reality as a cog. The blood stained hands that killed millions in Vietnam and Cambodia will not be put into the ground in the next month, they are the hands of the US itself and they continue to work. We must remember that for the victims of his and those of the modern State Dept planners.

All top level American executive, diplomatic, intelligence personnel are criminals, are party to genocide, ecocide, mass murder, war crimes, crimes against humanity. To that degree I don't feel much about this dead man other than a slight pleasure he died fearing his work was unraveling. There are those even more unhinged than him in power. And it is to those, many of them who admire on a personal level this dead monstrous man that many of these statements appeal.

I think he probably would have blamed others. It hopefully upset him but I'm sure he thought it was the fault of others.

Sure there's nothing wrong with it. As long as you don't think you know it changes anything or especially changes the fact there are people just as vile as him currently in power, Nuland, Blinken, a few others. I think it's unfortunate many who rightfully hate on Kissinger for crimes that are okay to admit will also deny more recent crimes (Ukraine for instance) and not see the modern Kissingers actually wielding power and destroying human lives as we type to each other and not hope and pine for their demise as they have for Kissinger.

Rolling Stone has quite an article: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/henry-kissinger-war-criminal-dead-1234804748/

"Henry Kissinger, War Criminal Beloved by America’s Ruling Class, Finally Dies" (It's long too, they've been sitting on this one for a while)

For me it's bittersweet feelings. I would have rather at this point that he lived another 20 years and saw the world he built crumble entirely. He was also out of power and there are many like him much younger still in power. Where is the Blinken, Pompeo, Nuland, etc watch for their death for their complicity in crimes against humanity? Smaller in total deaths but still in the hundreds of thousands.

His death will mark my words be a ritual cleansing for western leftists and anti-war liberals, they will point to it and declare the evil has gone, it has died, America was bad but with his death that chapter closes and now we're good supporting wholesome 100 totally-not-Nazis in Ukraine among many other dubious movements.

Well first let's see if it gets past the Senate as I tend to doubt it. But if it does we'll have to see if he vetoes as he threatened to.

Then let's see who caves first, the Republicans based on their desire not to miss out on funding a genocide or Biden's.

The upcoming election will at least be more amusing than normal. They might actually jail Trump to keep him out of office because of his disruptive presence passive effect that gives the US a -5 to controlling its vassals among other negative stats such as the automatic -5 to stability perception they get the day he walks into office after swinging violently back and forth between him and old genocide Joe.

Awesome Gen-zers understanding the context and history in which an event happens unlike goldfish-brained bourgeois press "journalists"

I'm really glad to hear that. I hope you're alright comrade.

Oh my fucking god I just wrote out a big huge thoughtful response to what you said and to your other comments AND IT ALL GOT DELETED FUCK.

It's a lovely lemmy bug. I've had to teach myself, never stop to vote on things elsewhere or kiss your typing goodbye, also hope the thread being updated with a new comment doesn't bork things.

I never said any particular focus on sex work is needed. I am not seeing sex work as this great big threat at the forefront some people seem to presume I am saying it as. I am simply pointing out, the Marxist position on sex work. Sex work perpetuates misogyny. You cannot abolish misogyny without abolishing it. People act like because I push back against the notion with vigor that this is okay and guys can guilt free have sex with women for money, that I'm spending all my time seething at sex workers, that I have a little book and it's numbered enemies of women and the proletariat and at the top in red underlined 5 times with angry faces is sex work and that's simply not the case. It is a common point of liberal infiltration in thinking I think. It's not perhaps the most common one in the western left, but it's up there and it really seems to stir some passions and not for wrong reasons.

I am not interested in trying to make anyone trying to survive under capitalism feel bad. I am simply stating the Marxist, feminist position on what must come after. I am attacking those who insist one of the following: a) that it is okay to pay for sex, comrades do not do that, if a woman is in need of money and in that industry and you can afford to pay her, you can afford to give her the money as aid, b) that sex work is not problematic, it's totally feminist and should and will exist after the revolution. Which is false, dangerous, misleading.

There are those who perpetuate these things out of ignorance, genuine misogyny, material self-interest, and guilt and who are quite insistent upon spreading this frankly incorrect thinking that is damaging, dangerous, wrong, and perpetuates misogyny as I have outlined at length.

Now, frankly I have to say I've by this point said my piece (at great length) and I don't think further conversation is likely to alter my thinking, change your mind, or the minds of on-lookers. So I hope this has been constructive and perhaps educational as I will not be replying further here. Thanks and good luck.

Seems to be knitting DNA. Found it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_laboratory_mouse

By the way if you or anyone else ever wants to appropriate my writing for any reason, please feel free. I've been thinking lately that prolewiki could use a page on and against prostitution and sex work (but of course delineating the situation under capitalism and solidarity with members of the proletariat). I do not think what I've written is quite it. If someone wants to steal it and post it as an essay there in that section they can though it could probably use some clean-up. What stops me from trying to do such an article is that I'm busy, don't have the written works presently on-hand I'd need to cite and overall it's very intimidating and frankly I expect a shit-storm out of it from among other places hexbear. And I'm not sure I want to deal with that. I just do not know that I want my mental health to be impacted by these frankly vicious people and their slanderous attacks, accusations, etc.

One more thing:

Now some foolish people will claim they’re like therapists, but they’re not, they’re not trained and no psychology body Marxist (or liberal so far to my knowledge) would say this is an ethical thing to do that will help patients. And people claim some guys pay to talk to them but if guys really need someone to talk to it should be other men they know not strangers, women they have pre-existing platonic relationships with, and professional trained psychiatric professionals because you should get people the help they need, not exploit them for money and leave them dependent on you (which is the necessary action of these workers, to continue to draw an audience, to make people dependent on them for something they don’t need to survive nor does industry need it to keep the economy going). So the charade falls, these people are selling bodies, women’s bodies.

It is at best in the case of those who “want to” a case of people trying to turn a hobby into a career. I don’t think professional-career-gamers will exist under socialism, not unless it’s a formal televised or ticketed sport, without capitalist ad dollars and sponsorships the whole thing dries up. I think only a tiny handful of people will get there and it’ll be as unattainable as being a rock star. I also don’t think masturbating and chatting casually with strangers counts as necessary labor. It begs the question, these women are no better than others at erm their sexual tasks, basically none of them have any formal acting training, they aren’t trained therapists. The value is overwhelmingly in sexual interests and stimulation.

Which brings up a segue, and this isn't entirely related but I'll preach, I am tired of everything being charged for and this perpetuates that late capitalist mentality. Human companionship should absolutely not be in that list of things to monetize. I miss the days of free software, now every jerk with every little piece of software that they spent a few hours on is charging $5 on patreon to use it. Why? Because of hustle culture, because of the idea nothing should be free. That society is owed jack shit by you. That you have no responsibility beyond what you are paid for. It’s a cynical, alienating, anti-social thought pattern.

Now I’m absolutely not saying women are obligated to help men out in this area, because we’re not and goodness help you if you say otherwise as men need to help themselves first. I am saying if you like as a hobby being an exhibitionist then go and do so but don’t perpetuate the idea of paying for women and access to our bodies.

Besides that it obviously provides cover for exploitation. Who’s to say for certain that person on the camera is 18? Hell, 18 year olds shouldn’t be able to do this. Brain development doesn’t really complete until you hit 23-25 or so. The very idea it is legitimate, not anti-social, normal, accepted will further encourage underage teenagers to attempt to find ways to do it. It’ll seem easier, something they can do alongside school, something not regulated. The open market provides cover for the black market, we see that in the flesh markets of the Netherlands. Already there are girls who do this, they use social media, they use code words. This is an abomination.

Women getting the iron fist, especially in a time where they HAVE been brain washed, as you say…Feels extremely misogynistic.

Please, try and engage honestly with all of what I have said in the paragraph you are referencing. It's all right there at the top of my post. Act in good faith. Thanks.

What did I say? Did I say right now? Did I say under capitalism? No. I said under socialism. I said under socialism after their material needs have been met, they aren't going to lose a home or food, or medical care for sake of ceasing to do this "work". I said after not only that but intervention, therapy, re-education. If both of those things fail you have people willingly engaging in anti-social behavior, they've been brainwashed by communists (do you know the origin of brain washing? It literally means to wash the brain, to wash out the lies, to capitalists and imperialists who were frightened by their soldiers in Korea being woken up to what they were doing of course they'd conflate it with indoctrination, I don't hold it against you that you use it that way, many people do, but I did want to point it out as it's an interesting fact), that is cleansed of indoctrination while being provided for and they still choose to defy the line we've set, then and only then does anything happen. That is extremely lenient, extremely caring, we are under my proposal taking great pains to avoid having to be harsh. We are doing everything we can to materially meet needs, and educate. But you must understand. There is a tiny fraction of the population who refuse re-education. Who refuse to be deprogrammed of the old superstructure, of old social structures.

To address the second part briefly. I am engaging in a conversation with people who take as a given that pimps and men profiting off women selling sex is bad. I am engaging in a conversation with people who deflect with, well it was the woman's choice, it wasn't men, she likes it, she chose it. Etc. My post does go over men but it is huge as you can see no doubt. I didn't want to pad it out going over something everyone already agrees with and I really do not appreciate your insinuations towards me which are little more than personal attacks and cheap shots from someone who has no argument to offer.

Women perpetuate misogyny and this must be recognized and dealt with in any conversation where people pull out token women to excuse something. Men are primarily responsible, overwhelmingly responsible for misogyny and patriarchy and upholding it with incredible violence. It is their job, their fault and I expect them as comrades to shoulder primary responsibility which includes not perpetuating things like what we are discussing. However we cannot ignore in desiring to abolish it that there are women who will resist us actively, who will aid, abet, and join with those men seeking to uphold it. And this conversation got into that territory. And I have addressed their existence as best I could in brief without getting bogged down into a dissertation on the matter.

Also men and people of different genders engage in sex work. Perhaps that’s brainwashing as well but just wanted to throw that out there.

Absolutely men and people of other genders engage in sex work and prostitution. However it is a primarily women's issue and it is from that perspective of feminism and women's rights I address it. I do not want to distract from the fact prostitution was not built and is not a structure primarily of oppression to men, LGBTQ+ people, etc, that any such oppression came later, often as part of, ancillary too the structure of patriarchy and misogyny. Overwhelmingly women are those who do it and men are those who consume it. That includes trans women and the issue of trans-misogyny by the way. Fetishization, degradation, de-humanization. Trans-women are women and women are not your fetish or kink they are people my friend. That said, if one were to abolish it only among women and leave men and other genders in it, you'd have the same issues I raised which would form around them. So don't think I favor only saving women. I am talking about snatching back human sexuality from capitalism and this vile industry.

Thank you so much! It means a lot to hear this from you as you've made so many insightful posts yourself that I enjoy and feel enlightened by.