It's not a conspiracy. All I was saying is that by breaking backwards compatibility downstream either has to comply or find another way.
As another commentor has mentioned, gnome did actually inform downstream a good while back but downstream did not engage, so gnome obviously proceeded with their own project how they saw fit. Which is the right way of course.
Downstream should have tried to engage and perhaps found a good work around but sadly didn't.
Who said anything about a conspiracy? I'm just saying they may be acting selfishly and it couldn't hurt to speak to other parties who they know use their code, to discuss how it will impact them.
Gnome Foundation likes to think of themselves as the pioneer in DE's and the default choice for Linux. Which was true for a long time. Cinnamon and Mate run Gnome, for example. I'm not sure about XFCE.
If you're THE leading DE project at least try to accommodate those DE's that depend on your code or meet with them to inform them well in advance and discuss the best options for those DE's.
In other words, work together for the good of all users instead of doing your own little thing in the corner and leave the others to deal with the mess you made....
No. It's deliberately breaking backwards compatibility to force other projects that use that code to either look bland like Gnome or stop making their DE's.
The enshitification of Gnome continues until it be it's own little isolated thing and previous gnome code will have to be forked to make progress that users actually want.
That will probably go for gnome apps eventually. The Mint guys might have to rewrite all the bloody apps to work with gnome 3....🤦
To quote Clem, head of Linux Mint: "At a time where GNOME applications are less and less designed to work anywhere else than in GNOME, a project like XApp is extremely important."
Libaidwata breaks backward compatibility with older gnome versions and amongst other things doesn't allow theming natively, so the Cinnamon team are going to have to fork off and maintain the older code which works so they can continue to have theming and stuff with Gnome apps.
Gnome seem to like doing the opposite of the Linux philosophy which says interoperability should always be a priority so that the code can be shared as freely as possible.
I can't tell whether they are stupid or lazy over at Gnome. It's not enough to strip the DE down to nothing but now even the code that worked with previous, gnome still widely used, is being dumped.
I use Linux at home exclusively (Linux Mint Debian Edition).
Don't need Windows for anything but when I worked Enterprise IT the move to Windows 10 was a massive pain but we finally got it working and it wasn't too bad as an OS. There is no reason why you'd want to upgrade.
As for home users, from my experience people don't like change. If you move a single shortcut on the desktop , they are lost and panic .
So changing the entire look of the UI is not something people want. Plus Windows 10 auto update borked some windows 7 systems so users with that memory won't be keen to repeat it by upgrading to 11.
The only staff who need firing is Sundar. Google and android should have been easy better by now but he made them stagnant.
Android is still the best mobile os but it could have been even better under better leadership.
Plus they could have enabled and experimented with the OEM's to allow for additional hardware buttons, button remapping, a native Dex on all Androids, official gcam port to all OEM's so they don't need to make their own camera algorithms and even the cheapest droid could have had flagship level cameras.
danielfgom @ danielfgom @lemmy.world Posts 3Comments 736Joined 2 yr. ago
I'll take a look at that. Thanks