Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu says Palestinian civilians being killed en masse are simply “collateral damage”
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Targeting civilians is a war crime. Targeting enemy combatants while trying to evacuate civilians, trying to warn civilians so desperately that you warn the enemy combatants too, and killing civilians in attacks that target legitimate military targets and reflect a sufficient level of care to minimize risk to human life, is not a war crime, that's the definition of "collateral damage."
There's no double standard there, that's the whole issue.
What are your tricks for crispy fritters?
First, start calling them latkes. You're serving them with lox and dill, let's be real here.
Hasn't Batman also, in some media, gone blow for blow with Superman-level opponents without dying? Like, he's not as strong as them, and superhuman strength isn't technically a superpower he has, but...
No. Even if you could match the current fictional character's tech and computing power and budget and incoherent physical strength, those really are not what make Batman Batman. It's the intellect, the iron will, the sheer level of badassery that can only be achieved in fiction where an author has him appear behind the villain just to show what an impossible nightmare Batman truly is.
Being able to pretend that he's Bruce Wayne sometimes certainly helps, though. He's a good actor.
but they weren't offering money for platform exclusivity, they were offering money for store exclusivity on the platform
I don't think any secret agent could rival any of those fictional characters. They have incredible plot armor, depending on the scenario. James Bond is an idiot who fucks every woman who moves, even when he knows they're there to trap him, but has a magic dick that hypnotizes them onto his side.
Batman with prep time is an unstoppable force who could take down every army in the world at once if he really needed to.
No, no human can compare to these characters.
Except Google is framing the Apple App store as an alternative to the Google Play store, which... doesn't really make sense... Especially in this context, they weren't offering money to release fortnite on the Play store over the App store, they were offering money to release on the play store instead of as a standalone or in a competing store.
(sorry, I don't know why I never posted this, I have way too many tabs open)
You know this is propaganda right? That number never came from Hamas go find them quoting it as fact, I’ll wait.
Well, let's see, where did the Telegraph get its 8,000 number from?
On Sunday the Hamas-controlled Gaza health ministry claimed the death toll among Palestinians passed 8,000, with most of them women and children.
... gee, I didn't even have to dig one layer deep, the Telegraph itself tells you it's from Hamas. =/
Let's focus on the 500, though, who cites the number as a Hamas claim verified by literally nobody else?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/world/middleeast/gaza-hospital-blast-deaths.html
And who else commented on the number?
the Al-shifa hospital director, who estimated it was half of that.
But Hamas just knew in less than 20 minutes, somehow, that it was 500.
The number came from an interview with a doctor right after the attack and it was mistranslated on Aljazeera.
Does the doctor work for Hamas?
Gee, I wonder how a Hamas employed doctor managed to count 500 dead bodies within 20 minutes. Israel is still trying to tally its dead, but Hamas managed to pronounce 500 people dead just in time to falsely accuse Israel of attacking the hospital on Al Jazeera?
it would be weird if you didn't.
I love software freedom, federated networks, proper encrytption, and all of that too.
But I'm not kidding myself into thinking that it's worth losing friends over. Do facebook and IG suck? yeah. But that's where the social network is. The product isn't the software, it's the network.
That's kind of the point of the fediverse, that we can expand to achieve a large-scale network that creates the same positive network effects as a social network like... well, more like reddit or twitter, primarily due to the norm of anonymity, probably not a replacement for facebook, but...
Anyway... I think that, depending on the specifics, it might actually be a good idea to federate with Threads, just to expand the network, gain mainstream appeal, normalize the fediverse, and drive engagement here.
Pizza with pineapple, night drive, Singing in the shower, a bit too much sweetness (but I’m thin) poor comedy or something like that?
something like that. I like "singing in the shower," it's cute and not too common and there's really nothing wrong with it.
How do you stroke a giraffe’s head?
Is that what you meant?
I like metal, rock, Glukhovsky’s books and shrek (I gave up writing about sci-fi and r&m to sound more normal)
I think "Glukhovsky" just sounds like a much, much more obscure way of saying "sci-fi." And I think Shrek kind of sounds... both like something everybody likes, and like a childish thing to focus on. Like, I like Shrek, but it is a children's movie series that came out in 2001, so how about...
I like metal, rock, sci-fi literature (I'm a big fan of Glukhovsky), and (something else, maybe something more abstract, like "ordering dessert" or "the sound my cat makes when I pet it" or "comfy sweaters" or "food that's just a little bit too spicy or something).
then...
Looking for my next ex (joke)
... nope. I understand the joke. You do not want to make a joke that takes people to a negative place. Also, this particular joke is a cliche, so it's not even funny anymore.
why do you people think Israel wants to kill civilians? Do you really think the IDF is just hundreds of thousands of monsters who love killing? What is wrong with you people?
Their intent is that by their "martyring" Palestinian civilians, they'll be able to use their deaths as PR against Israel.
Yes, that is a cynical take. That's how Hamas operates.
it doesn't? I thought I was reinforcing your point...
Well, Gaza's internet and phone services are up again, but if you'd been paying attention, you know that, in addition, they've also been using roof knocking, and also dropping flyers, and every other fucking thing they can manage to warn civilians on every time scale. If you have any other idea how Israel should disable rocket facilities, feel free.
If the point is to destroy Hamas assets and people, there’s no sense in tipping them off about it.
The primary point of airstrikes is to stop the Hamas bases that fire rockets indiscriminately in the vague direction of Israel. They warn people so that people can escape, and then, if people escape, and the rockets are disabled, that's a win-win. Of course, it would be even better if they had magic airstrikes that only disabled rockets, created protective bubbles around any civilians to protect them from any rubble, and convinced terrorists to just stop politely. But short of that, they're going to focus on disabling the rockets and warning civilians.
Yes, they call Hamas terrorists and warn them. They'd rather everybody survive than civilians die. Hamas would rather everybody die than civilians live.
It’s not actually possible to take out military targets like that in civilian neighborhoods with air strikes in a “clean” way.
Right. Feel free to recommend something cleaner than airstrikes.
Obviously the only reason they don’t go in on the ground with IDF soldiers if they actually have legitimate targets instead is because the lives of Palestinean civilians are less important than the lives of Israeli soldiers, and they know that air strikes don’t lead to any casualties on their side.
They did go in on the ground with IDF soldiers, what news are you following?
But launching a ground invasion into Gaza every time Hamas or PIJ fired a rocket would be worse, you see how much the world is complaining (and attacking Jews) because of the current ground invasion, right? They're calling the ground invasion a genocide. Surrounding Muslim nations have been saying that invading Gaza by ground would be an act of war against them, they're just itching to invade Israel. Ground wars are not safe for civilians either.
Moreover, if you attack a Hamas rocket facility on ground, kill every terrorist, and let every civilian go free, the rockets and rocket-firing infrastructure are still there. You need the soldiers to stay around long enough to dismantle all that and carry the rockets away. In that time, Hamas will obviously attack the soldiers, and the escalation will inevitably result in more destruction.
How can harm be minimized here? Really? There is no sensible solution while Hamas exists. Hamas must not be allowed to continue existnig. (Nor should PIJ, for that matter). That, at this point, is the justification for a ground invasion.
Bibi is a piece of shit, and that is not a defense of Hamas or its use of Palestinian civilians as human shields. If you're not going to try, don't bother commenting.
I'm not going to debate with anybody evil enough to call the rapists and baby-murderers at Hamas a "resistance group." If you're intentionally going to spread pro-Hamas propaganda, you can go fuck yourself.
You still won't respond to the point that Hamas is, in fact using Palestinians as human shields. you still just abstractly insist that believing that makes me a dumbass and is nothing but Israeli propaganda. But you don't have anything substantive to say.
You condemn terrorism, except on the internet, where you defend it. You don't want people to die, unless Hamas also wants them to die, in which case you'll divert and deflect all you want.
The original aggressor in the current conflict is Hamas. The original aggressor in the region is a complex, hazy question, but it very obviously predates the 1948 date people just love to focus on. Edit: Here's a starting point, if you need one
It is. When your enemy is embedded in hospitals and mosques and everywhere else civilians try to go for safety, it gets hard. But I'm sure your alternative is just for Israel to just agree to a one-sided ceasefire and wait for Hamas to shore up its weapons, move the hostages, and repeat its 10/7 attack, huh?