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Cyclohexane @ cyclohexane @lemmy.ml Posts 71Comments 773Joined 4 yr. ago
Cyclohexane @ cyclohexane @lemmy.ml
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I am sorry to restate this again, but the expulsion, genocide on the scale (both in size and horror) is historically unprecedented. You're going to have to prove this to me if you think it's a common occurrence instead of continuing to repeat it.
And for the record, no one here is talking about small scale expulsion. I am talking about expulsion AND genocide on the same scale and horror committed here. Show me that it is a common occurrence and I will concede.
Quite the opposite, actually. Corporations love for you to be distracted with the methods that are futile. Don't you ever think about unionizing, striking, protesting, blocking traffic to our stores, boycotting, or any of that. Just do the things that don't hurt our profits!
You're correcting me saying that expelling native populations time and time again from every land they go to, then genociding their entire population to the point of near extinction, using the most horrific methods and over centuries, is more akin to dying of old age than dying by a bomb?
Please read that again and confirm to me that's what you're saying, because it sounds absolutely ridiculous. This scale and this horror are not common historical occurrence.
Your first statement of "there's totally Christians in Palestine"
Yes it's true. Your own links prove I am right LOL. Not only that, many figures in Palestinian resistance are Christian. Examples: George Habash, founder of the PFLP. Shireen Abu Akleh, she was a journalist that Israelis murdered last year in cold blood.
There's an entire Wikipedia article about Palestinian Christians. You might learn something (I doubt it, you don't seem to be the kind):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians
nice whataboutism, bringing up the 2nd Gulf War without addressing the very real issue in the first one
I didn't imagine you would have so much trouble understanding that the west has a record of justifying war with bullshit claims. The first gulf war was due to, supposedly, Saddam's involvement in Kuwait and doing horrendous things. It was later proven that the woman who testified in front of the UN to justify this war was lying. More here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
I chose not to continue arguing your other points
"I only cherry pick the arguments I may have a chance not looking stupid responding to". I am sorry to break it to you, you look just as stupid in all the arguments, and your cherry picking is not a good look.
You said you would stop replying yet here you are. I urge you to stop wasting my time and spreading misinformation.
Last thing I'll add: you've started to engage in adhom attacks. I'm going to let it pass since I personally don't care, and imo you only embarrass yourself doing them. But if I see you doing that with anyone else in this community, I'll have to ban you. So please keep your insulting in check.
A peace festival held in outskirts of a concentration camp, where people are getting massacred daily. Where children get separated from their parents or families daily, if not murdered themselves or burned alive or raped. Where people are given just enough electricity, drinking water and food to experience slow death and suffer.
Literally you have the entire world open, and if all the places to party and rave you choose that? It's pretty ironic to call it a peace festival.
A music festival held in outskirts of the biggest open air prison on earth, where people are getting massacred daily. Where children get separated from their parents or families daily, if not murdered themselves or burned alive or raped. Where people are given just enough electricity, drinking water and food to experience slow death and suffer.
Literally you have the entire world open, and if all the places to party and rave you choose that? I do not celebrate death, but if anyone to blame, it is themselves.
Innocent people who thought it was totally okay to go party and rave on the outskirts of the biggest open air prison on earth, where people are getting massacred daily. Where children get separated from their parents or families daily, if not murdered themselves or burned alive or raped. Where people are given just enough electricity, drinking water and food to experience slow death and suffer.
Literally you have the entire world open, and if all the places to party and rave you choose that? I do not celebrate death, but if anyone to blame, it is themselves.
Hamas has treated their hostages far better than Israel has treated theirs, even though Israel is a recognized state that answers to the international community, and Hamas is a mere militia.
So you're saying native Americans have every right to kill, maim and rape settler-colonialist Americans?
Where did OP say this? It is a bannable offense so please point out where, as I don't see it.
What matters isn't who came first. What matters is that no one has the right to expel a human from a land they're living in. That is the core of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
I am pro Palestine, but have no issue with the increase of Jewish migrations in the 19th century. The problem is not Jewish migration. It is the fact that Israel expelled Palestinians from their homes, murdered them, suffocated them, and made their lives miserable.
And this is the same thing that was done to the native people of the modern day Americas.
Hamas is not even a fraction of the concern that Israel is. Casualties are not even order of magnitudes close. Even the horrific ways in which Israel has tortured and murdered Palestinians is unmatched by Hamas, despite it being a militia rather than an organized army judged by the international community.
Israel has burned children alive, they have officials who bragged about raping and torturing children, they make people destroy their own homes by THEIR OWN HANDS. And this is while Israel has the upper hand, yet it is still the more horrifying of the two by many orders of magnitude. Comparing the two is sickening.
If more than one entity massacred people, it means massacre is okay? Very strange logic. Do bad things have to be done by only one entity to be considered bad?
Other examples existing does not change that it is historically unprecedented and far from the norm. And its just a really strange and pointless thing to point.
Person A: "my dad died in a car bomb" Person B: "ehh, average family death" A: "uhh what?" B: "well, there are other examples of people dying in car bombs, dude! "
I love when people on the Internet say "X did Y quietly" to make it more suspenseful. This doesn't look quiet to me...
I see you made an edit, so I'll respond to it here.
While no one should have the right to rape anyone or murder innocent people, the only one to blame for these atrocities is the Israeli state. They are keeping millions of people in a concentration camp, massacring them slowly every day, destroying their homes, cutting off supply lines and giving them just enough living resources to experience slow death. They burn their children alive. Their soldiers brag about raping Palestinians.
So then if those people lose it and retaliate, who are you going to blame? Those trapped in the concentration camp and chose to resist? Or the ones doing it to them?
And in reality, despite all of this, Hamas has been far more humane in treating Israelis than Israel is with Palestinians. They protected their hostages, and have a history of doing so. They give mothers and the elderly special treatment.
If you are upset about rape and cold blooded murder, look no further than Israel. If you're outraged about Hamas, who's not even a fraction the concern that Israel is, your priorities are not right at all.