as I already said above, it is because it is an ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc). It has engaged in massacre and forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.
Israel is by its own definition the Zionist state founded on religious exclusivism. An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities. It should absolutely be taken down.
They previously presented as fact. Now they're saying they can't confirm it and cannot present any evidence. I don't believe they have to spell out "we lied" for it to be obvious.
Did I say I support the status quo? No, I did not.
You have opposed any change to the status quo. What else would that make you?
I’d say the same damn thing if I ever found out that people who lived under the holocaust harmed random people in the streets of Germany.
The resistance against Nazi Germany actually had far far more civilian casualties than Palestine's resistance against Israel, despite the fact that the Palestinian cause has been ongoing for way longer. Did you really not know this? I must be misunderstanding you, or maybe you misspoke. I thought they teach about this extensively in the US
By supporting the status quo, you are supporting the murder of civilians involved in said status quo. No worries though, its not surprising from westerners. Been doing it for centuries now.
to add to the other comment, I think mods can still power trip here. Though I think there's one thing protecting from that: the instance admins can reassign the mods. And though it is technically the same as reddit, in reality your instance admins are way more responsive that Reddit admins.
No need to apologize. I understand you've made up your mind already, but the facts are clear, and others reading my comment can cross what I said with the video to compare and verify me.
"both sides" is a meaningless stance. What are you recommending, other than maintaining the status quo of massacre and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians? Of slow death and suffocation? What are Palestinians to do but resist?
Thanks for the link! I assume you're speaking about the part between 1:30 and 1:40. a person wearing black appeared behind the lines of Palestinian forces. This would be pretty alarming to the fighters, as the person in black could be undercover or off duty soldier. The person was probably yelled at and told to get down, but proceeded to move in the wrong direction (could be language barrier). It seems that this is when someone opened fire, but you can see smoke appears on the ground noticeably far from the person. This means whoever was shooting shot at the ground, to alert the person in black. It was immediately after that that the person in black dropped to the ground.
Most likely, they dropped not because they got shot and killed, but because they complied after being warned with the gunshots. If you're shooting to kill, you wouldn't be shooting on the ground far from the person, or even their legs. Moreover, if you look close and zoom in, the person is seen moving after they drop right before the clip ends, indicating they're probably still alive, and the video clip ends immediately after.
Thanks for being open minded and reading through! Even if it's through a biased eye and a bit of a snarky reply, I still appreciate it. I hope that you open up and consider the sources presented with an open mind.
I'll be looking forward to your assessment when you're done, and I'll do my best to receive it with an open mind as well.
You mean the dance rave held at the gates of a concentration camp and active war zone? The one with many Israeli soldiers positioned and decided to skirmish the Palestinian resistance, and put the ravers in crossfire?
Arab Israeli population went from 1.5M to 2M since 2006
That's because of their high birth rate. 45% of Palestinians are under the age of 15. The genocide numbers are very well documented, but I admire your bravery with genocide denial despite mountains of evidence.
You're gonna have to substantiate that claim. Show me evidence of Palestinians celebrating "killing of civilians at a dance party, or the beheading of babies". Without evidence, your claim is to be ignored.
Gunmen chased fleeing revellers across the desert, shooting and snatching people
They moved people off the battle field and kept them hostage, yes. They did not target and shoot civilians, the IDF put the ravers in crossfire when they engaged the Palestinian resistance. There's plenty of footage of the incident online, and none of it shows that. I'd be happy to be proven wrong; show me evidence. If all you have is "trust me bro" from the Israeli government and media, who have a proven track record of lying (and already admitted that they lied about this latest Hamas operation), then your claims are to be ignored.
The rave had many Israeli military soldiers positioned, and they fired at the Palestinian resistance forces heading to Re'im base and skirmished with them, putting the ravers in the crossfire.
as I already said above, it is because it is an ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc). It has engaged in massacre and forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.