crashfrog @ crashfrog @lemm.ee

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Apparently food doesn’t either, if Jews send it

Conversely, the Palestinians have always been pissed at the so-called Zionists who just started showing up and claiming land.

How could the Jews “show up” in a place they always lived?

You’re truly a moron.

I think most people, not just Israel, have noticed people saying “zionists” when they mean “Jews”

Because the fascists are the ones who will tell you which truths are “disinformation.”

Aren’t you actually the one saying people are Nazis?

Israel held up their end of a negotiated ceasefire that included these terms. Hamas’ terms included ending attacks on Jews.

Did they?

It took the Germans a while to liquidate the Warsaw Ghetto.

Only because they used starvation instead of air power. Israel sends 3500 calories to Gaza per Gazan per day; that’s more food per day than a person eats in Luxembourg.

The Zionists have killed 200,000 so far (according to the Lancet)

You surely mean “according to a letter someone sent to the Lancet, using a methodology that counts currently-living persons as “fatalities.”

Sure; it started hundreds of years ago via Arab colonization of Judea and Samaria.

Or did you intend history to only begin once the Jews hit back?

Gaza doesn’t deserve buildings after Oct 7, but the Jews of Israel offer more grace to their enemies than I would

What “plausible deniability”?

If they spent two hours killing everyone in Gaza, it’d be over before anyone could do anything about it. And then what? Nobody’s going to war with a nuclear power in revenge for Gazans. Bibi just stops visiting Brooklyn and nothing happens.

But they don’t do that. The Jews of Israel bleed and die to save the lives of Gazans who hate them. I wouldn’t, but they do.

They weren’t being protected there, though; they were just there

That’s actually a myth. They didn’t “fund Hamas”, they contributed to a development fund that Hamas stole from.

Israel isn’t “bombing stuff into oblivion”, they’re doing two things:

1. Attacking subterranean structures with ground-penetrating (aka “2000 pound”) bombs, and
2. Clearing a one-mile cordon along the border of structures so that Hamas attackers can’t do what they did on Oct 8, which was train and amass along the border fence in secret, hidden among the buildings and blended in with the populace.

If your army has to cross a mile of open ground to attack your fence, it’s a lot more obvious when they start. One of the reasons they succeeded in “surprising” Israel is that they just were there right by the fence, for years, until it seemed “normal.” With the buildings gone, they can’t do that.

But then why commit any ground troops at all?

If they just wanted to wipe out Gaza they’d have done it on Oct 8th. Could hardly take more than an hour.

How do they “control the price of things”? Or wages?

Where was the car?

Can you describe their “power over the economy”?

I am sure the dead are enjoying all of their human rights to the fullest.

You are, because they died for those rights. And it’s a good thing they did because they’d be ashamed of how little you think of their sacrifice.

You should be able to use reasonable force.

Any amount of force that stops an attacker is reasonable, by definition. The only one who should have a legal obligation of care for the welfare of the lawbreaker is the one breaking the law.

But if you just have someone who wants to be rude and yell in your face

But it depends what they’re yelling. If they’re yelling “I’m five seconds from killing you!” then you do have a right to use whatever force is available to you to stop them, and that might very well mean their death; there actually aren’t any safe, harmless, perfectly non-lethal means of disabling an agitated, adrenaline-fueled human being.

If that’s something that you don’t want to happen to you, then don’t go into public space and assault the people there. It’s actually pretty easy to avoid.