crashfrog @ crashfrog @lemm.ee

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I'm sure you'll be willing to share?

I am sharing it? In every post? I can’t make you read it, though.

You keep dodging around it but we're talking about checkpoints inside Gaza preventing aid from being distributed.

But there are no IDF checkpoints preventing aid from being distributed. The IDF isn’t responsible for the distribution of aid; UNRWA is. And in any case that’s a new accusation; you had previously said they cut off the aid and now you’re saying they get the aid, they just can’t get it to anybody. But the logistical failures of the UNRWA aren’t anyone’s fault but theirs.

With report after report telling the same story

But that’s false. There isn’t “report after report” telling the same story. There’s one FRC report, with conclusions all other groups say aren’t supported by their own data, saying that famine has been “severe and imminent” even as Gazans continue to enjoy widespread access to abundant food.

You literally have nothing else, while I’ve produced source after source.

You approve a group as described, so as described, you’re the Nazi.

Socratic questioning goes back a lot longer than 5 years, stupid

And not accounting for trucks that are turned around inside Gaza by Israeli troops.

That’s zero trucks. IDF troops can’t and don’t make aid trucks turn around once they’re in Gaza. They don’t get the chance - the aid warehouses are all just beyond the border crossing.

If an aid truck is turned back, due to the unlawful presence of dual-use items in the shipment, then it is turned around at the checkpoint, not in Gaza, and isn’t included here.

And your news story study is from the Israeli government. Who is about as trustworthy as a murderer on trial.

I disagree with that. The Israeli government is more credible than the Hamas government of Gaza, and in any case here’s another study proving that the UN’s conclusion of famine is based on ignoring huge amounts of aid:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4851635

On the IPC website you will find that the people in Gaza have not been getting enough calories since February.

But they have been - the IPC study was totally refuted by the UN’s own research. The FRC’s conclusions aren’t supported by even their own data.

If trade occurs, then by definition they have currency; there are no barter economies.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-study-finds-food-supply-to-gaza-more-than-sufficient-for-populations-needs/

I mean I am the chain, I’m asking you what the fuck you’re talking about and you’re really bad at having clear ideas

Who said anything about slavery? What are you talking about?

Except I have the receipts:

https://x.com/aizenberg55/status/1802704210485473414?s=46

https://x.com/aizenberg55/status/1802704212461052162?s=46

https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-study-finds-food-supply-to-gaza-more-than-sufficient-for-populations-needs/

You’ve been lied to. There is no famine in Gaza, which is why the Ministry of Health there records almost zero malnutrition deaths.

More people died of malnutrition in Los Angeles since Oct 7 than died of it in Gaza.

Sorry, what are you talking about? What “war”? What was made illegal?

Are you talking about where they don't count the food Isrealis turn around?

No, the food that goes in. The UN analysis deliberately excludes up to 70% of the food aid entering over the Israeli border into Gaza. All told it’s 3500 calories per Gazan per day, since Oct 7 - well shy of “famine”, entirely the opposite.

These figures have been verified by independent observers and by the UN.

You mean the case which convinced the ICJ that Israel was committing war crimes

They didn’t rule that Israel was committing war crimes.

Anything else you’d like to make up?

Yes! They deliberately omit most of the food aid entering Gaza, to deliberately undercount calories per person. That’s not according to Israel; that’s according to the UN itself.

That’s why the UN has predicted “mass famine” but it never actually happens.

They didn't think they could get away with raising prices so far before. And they would pay us nothing if they could.

What does “get away” with it mean? Why can’t they pay us nothing?

They receive far less food aid than what was coming in before this phase of the genocide

They receive 3500 calories per day per person. How much more do they need? They’re already the fattest assholes in the whole Levant.

That's why the UN and WHO and HRW and every other credible humanitarian agency has highlighted the famine and placed the blame squarely on Israel for starvation as a weapon.

But the UN analysis deliberately ignores most of the food aid. It even says it does.

Starvation in Gaza has been totally refuted.

Also, the small amount of aid crossing the border can't be transported anywhere because all the roads are rubble.

It can be moved and distributed by hand, if Hamas were willing to do so.

But they aren’t separate. Gaza is receiving so much aid from Israel they say they’re running out of places to put it.

I mean, no, you don’t.

Genocide denial

I mean, yes, I deny that fighting a defensive war while taking reasonable precautions against civilian loss of life is a “genocide”, that’s correct.

Israel is not “systematically starving” Gazans; Gazans receive more food aid from Israel than any population in the world receives from anyone.

Fracking is usually for natural gas I think

Why hadn’t they raised them before? Why don’t they keep raising them until prices are at infinity?

Why don’t they lower wages to zero, or negative?