count_dongulus @ count_dongulus @lemmy.world

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I wonder how the court would respond to a petition to allow firearms in court rooms. It's a god-given American freedom, guaranteed by the second amendment right?

It's true, former British colony The United States is still a developing country for this very reason.

These wouldn't be like single family homes for the most part. More like concrete apartment block slums. Hamas has tunnels under the entire Gaza strip, weaving throughout civilian infrastructure and housing. When Hamas tunnels are blown or bombed, streets and buildings above further down the tunnels can be damaged or destroyed too. These tunnels range in size, from tiny crawl ways to large corridors multiple people could wall in for ferrying supplies and fighters. They are not conditions teams of soldiers can directly fight through. Israel tried different options like pumping in water or concrete to deal with the tunnels but Hamas has found ways to make these safer solutions ineffective. It's not like a single tunnel system; it's innumerable small tunnel systems. More are constantly being being made too.

Additionally, Hamas fights like Al-Qaeda, embedded in the civilian population without clear designation or uniform. They exploit humanitarian activity, diverting supplies intended for civilians for themselves. If they know IDF soldiers are approaching, they can just disperse and pretend to be civilians.

How would any of you approach this problem? Hamas IS a terrorist militant group, especially obviously so after the massive terror attack in October killing over a thousand innocent Israeli civilians.

The IDF seems to have run out of effective options that don't hurt the civilian population, and gave up after the October events with their prior painstakingly slow and risky standard counterterrorism strategies. They just bomb the tunnels now, and they bomb wherever they find Hamas positions embedded above ground regardless of collateral.

Lemme ask you a question: how did Jerusalem get its name, and who lived there and named it thousands of years ago?

No, it started in 1948. And it was started by several Arab nations, who invaded immediately after Britain released their mandate in the region protecting Israelis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

Heard of the six day war? How about the Yom kipour war? Who started any of them?

Sounds like a secret affair with the gardener

Israel's watch? Israel agreed several times to various two state solutions. Palestinians have always rejected recognizing Israel as a state. Here's a reality check:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution#:~:text=The%20two%2Dstate%20solution%20to,based%20on%20the%201967%20lines.

Why

Why don't paltestinians work with Israel to get rid of Hamas ASAP?

It's not 45 congresspeople. It's the millions of people they collectively represent who put them there by ticking a box on a voting machine. Those 45 people are doing exactly what their constituents elected them to do. That is the real problem.

I don't disagree. Airstrikes and intelligence on where to put them can only be so reliable.

Nope, just because I'm part of a wide, very diluted group collectively responsible doesn't mean I think I am wrong. I am happy for voting representatives into power who used military force against Al-Qaida and ISIS. Fuck them.

Yes, they are innocent. They did not consent to what their elected government is doing, assuming the actions being taken are from representatives they did not vote for.

Yes, those people are innocent. I have no qualms with that.

No, I am a voter. Do you know how government works? Are you 12?

No, every voting eligible citizen in a democratically elected government is responsible for a war of aggression. They are giving consent to the war of aggression. That is how democracy works: you the citizen decide your own governance, and you are not magically absolved of responsibility for the actions of the government you elected.

Germans voted for the Nazi party to take power. And guess what? Germans supported that party, even after that party they chose to put into power suspended elections. If you elect a government that suspends elections, you're still responsible for electing that government. You put them there: you and your fellow citizens gave consent.

I AM responsible. This is how democracy works. You are responsible for your own governance. Why don't you think for yourself? You can't vote for your government to kill others, and take zero responsibility.

In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.

Hamas was freely elected by the people of Gaza in 2006. Their actions did and continue to represent the will of the citizenry. If they didn't, they would not still be in positions of elected authority.

So, in a war of aggression by a democratic state, voting age adults are just as responsible for the actions of their country as the combatants they indirectly sent to harm others.

Gazan adults are either fighting Hamas, or they support Hamas. And I haven't read ANYTHING about Gazans against Hamas taking up arms to free their country from that elected group.

Property acquisition costs and legal fees are immensely more expensive in the US. Have to obtain those thousands of miles of land for rail development from somebody.