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  • Well the first claims out by Hamas was 500+ dead and an Israeli airstrike.

    Now we are learning it's more like 20-50 dead, landed in the parking lot next to the hospital and was due to a failed Hamas/related groups rocket.

    Yeah either way people died but the entire situation has greatly raised tension in the middle east. It could have been responsible for opening up another front of the war with Hezbollah.

  • Firstly, I have yet to see anyone say that they support Hamas’ actions. What they’ve recognized is that this was an entirely anticipated outcome from Israeli policy.

    Just look around in this thread... https://i.imgur.com/T9GowBS.png and it's growing getting some pretty crazy straight up Nazi race shit also.

    Now I'm sorta tired arguing the chicken or the egg with other people but now is a terrible time to try and justify this kind of behavior.

  • Sure it's a recruitment driver but that doesn't change the fact that Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians and is a terrorist organization. Their behavior is inexcusable and the current state of Gaza is a direct result of their violence (against both Palestinians and Israelis). They are not some sort of organization to be defended and right now isn't the time to try to do that while they are literally killing scores and scores of civilians.

    It's like defending ISIS during one of their worst atrocities because they are Sunni and used Shia on Sunni violence to recruit.

    Also if you scroll further in this thread you will see a lot of people celebrating the attacks.

  • Justify this you cunt. Sorry I should call people cunts but the news coming out of Israel isn't good. A ton of Israeli's are dead and a ton of Palestinians are dead/going to die over this. Hamas achieved nothing but get scores of Palestinian and Israelis killed.

    FAIR WARNING THIS IS EXTREMELY NSFW. IT IS THE RESULTS OF AN ATTACK ON A BOMB BUNKER. FILMED BY HAMAS THEMSELVES.

    They started off the attack by launching thousands of rockets then they purposely attacked bomb bunkers where tons of civilians were grouped together and hiding. This is what you and the others are currently justifying.

    HAMAS was always this violence this is not some sort of revolation or response to occupation. They want to genocide Jews not make Palestinian lives better. They came to power in Gaza strip through violence (against Palestinians and the people they elected).

    EXTREMELY NSFW YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED: https://twitter.com/MDeLaBroc1/status/1710547042269905146?s=20

  • Let me be very clear. Hamas is ISIS level bad. They are not slightly bad, Israel level bad, Russia/Iran level bad. They are religious fanatics who only care about genociding the Jews in the most violent and terrifying way possible.

    Idk why you keep making excuses and bringing up Israels occupation. An occupation which is happening (for the most part) on an entirely different side of the country that has a completely different Palestine government, groups and organizations behind it.

    Gaza is embargoed and walled up due to Israels fear of violence from Hamas which exactly what happened today. And it wasn't always like that, the walls and the embargo were built due previous violent actions from Hamas.

  • Hamas is not the pro Palestinian organization that you think it is. They are religious fanatics that only care about killing Jews. Hamas never cared about Palestinians which is why they love to store ammo at the bottom of important buildings and launch rockets from apartment complexes.

    They were out there beheading kids, shooting entire families and kidnapping people today. Commit pure acts of terror.

    They came to power through violence after they lost an election. You should maybe go visit their wiki page and educate yourself on them.

  • Hamas is out there beheading kids and laughing about it on camera. They are slaughtering civilians and kidnapping others.

    It was never about the occupation, all they care about is killing Jews. This isn't about Palestine rights. Hamas never cared about Palestinians which is why they love to store ammo at the bottom of important buildings and launch rockets from apartment complexes.

    Go read about the organizations history before you defend these actions. They violently took power of Gaza strip after losing an election.

    Edit: Fediverse Nazis are out in full force today lol.

  • Okay, instead of posting rage bait can you show me that more people are dying in/from Tesla's then other vehicles per mile driven?

    And just to be clear, I don't own a car. Nor do I care for Teslas. But you can't claim it's a dangerous car while not comparing it to the rest of the industry. Cars in general are really fucking unsafe.

  • similar in culture and language

    US is a big place, plenty of areas that they can move which the majority speak the same language and have the same culture.

    Also as for cartel stuff, if the people are able to make good livings not doing drug stuff then they will. So hopefully their economy keeps improving along with their quality of life.