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YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • not all land is suitable for crops. letting cattle graze it is fine.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • Any fewer beef meals you have helps.

    i don't think that's true, if meat production continues to grow.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • cutting your meat consumption by half can have a significant impact.

    i doubt it. many people have done that, and meat production grows year-over-year every year.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • why do we need to grow corn and soybeans for them

    we don't. but we do grain finish most cattle, because it's faster.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • if you think about the energetic demand of growing food only to feed an animal that then will become food, rather than skipping this step and eating the original food instead.

    most people don't want to eat grass or soy cake. letting cows graze, and feeding soycake (the byproduct of soybean oil production) to pigs and poultry is a conservation of resources.

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • your tulane link is not exactly good science. it relies on Clark (2019) which itself relies on Poore-Nemecek (2018). Poore & Nemecek built their data by combining LCA studies, a practice which is specifically discouraged by the studies themselves and the guidance on LCA studies generally. we can't really rely on those conclusions at all.

    they also rely on Behrens (2017), which shares a problem with poore-nemecek, though a more nuanced one: they myopically distill data from input-output to calculate environmental impacts like water and land use and ghge. this seems reasonable at first blush, but in fact it overlooks the complexity of our agricultural systems. for instance, one of the things farmers feed cattle is cottonseed. cotton is grown for textiles, and the seed is largely waste product. feeding it to cattle is a conservation of resources, and doing so should in no way count against the land, water, and ghge statistics for cattle.

    but that's not really here or there, as it turns out, because the thrust of the paper is not "these foods are bad for the environment" or "these foods are good for the environment". the actual claim made in the paper is "there is not actually sufficient data sources available to determine which foods have which impacts".

    • YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat.

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  • plenty of people have tried that, and the production of beef continues to grow.

    • Why God Made Me a Veganivore 🥩🔥 Unlike Weaklings Who Settle for Unrefined Plants

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  • vegan isn't a diet, and cows don't have an ethical position on animal exploitation

    • ‘It’s too late’: David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost - iPolitics

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  • The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products.

    has that ever worked?

    • 30 to 40 olives

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  • if it needs to be green olives, get the stuffed ones. but black olives are fine.

    • Uh, yeah. That rings a bell.

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  • If there was no demand, these children wouldn't be forced to work in mines - it's that simple.

    setting aside the difficulty of quantifying demand, this is still an unprovable statement. you can't prove a counterfactual.

    • Why does (human) organ trafficking exist?

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  • "supply and demand" is a theory about price discovery. it is not an explanation for the existence of a market.

    • what advice was great when you first heard it, but has aged like milk since then?

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  • Someone producing a degradable product that has no buyers is not what is meant when discussing irrational actors.

    no one proposed that but you

    • what advice was great when you first heard it, but has aged like milk since then?

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  • saying it's basic is hand waiving. say what you mean.

    • what advice was great when you first heard it, but has aged like milk since then?

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  • I understand that markets are populated by irrational actors.

    • what advice was great when you first heard it, but has aged like milk since then?

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  • did it work?

    • You receive an emergency alert: "BALLISTIC MISSILE THREAT INBOUND. SEEK IMMEDIATE SHELTER. THIS IS NOT A DRILL." What do you do? How do you think your neighborhood will react? What memes be on Lemmy?

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  • opening some of the jails.

    they are far enough away from any reasonable target to be safe, and with a few motivated friends, I might be able to pull a few bank jobs.

    • What's some better vegan/vegetarian/plant based communities that aren't militant and rude?

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  • more non falsifiable vaguery

    • What's some better vegan/vegetarian/plant based communities that aren't militant and rude?

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  • the entire problem with your comment is that you are using vague language and not defining your terms. as a result, you have presented unfalsifiable theory.

    no one should believe anything you've written here.