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Yeah, because there's more people in total.

make any excuse you want

That doesn't mean people going vegan doesn't stop the growth of the meat industry.

all the evidence is to the contrary

Foucault needs a word.

I don't know if I could prove this, but I would bet there are more vegans now than any time in history, and I know there is more meat produced than any time in history. being vegan doesn't stop the growth of the meat industry.

for the vast majority of people in western countries (which have by far the most emissions per capita), it is much cheaper to eat a plant based diet

I don't think this is true

novel

how am I supposed to practice it and learn it?

they existed long before anyone alive today started buying meat. there is no reason to believe they care if anyone stops.

being vegan doesn't stop the growth of the meat industry. it certainly doesn't shrink it.

You do not know the best advice for advocacy for a group without being part of it.

it's possible they do

there is nothing about being vegan that makes you suited for advocacy

Plant based diets are still cheaper

for some people

It should also be noted that soy cake is human-edible

and it is eaten by humans, but not in the quantities it is produced due to soy ean oil production.

a soybean is only about 20% oil, but oil makes up almost half the soy beans value

it's produced in an oil press

soy cake is the byproduct of soybean oil production, and if we didn't feed it to livestock, it would be industrial waste

unless your poor, then you buy the cheapest available.

This is true on small scale subsistence farms, but it breaks down when scaled up to the amount of meat consumption in typical developed nations

I'm afraid you're misinformed.

soy cake is a byproduct of soybean oil production. it's about 90% of the soy we feed to animals globally. that's one of the biggest ones, but you'll find this repeated across the industry: corn cobs and corn stalks used in fodder, crop seconds like onions and tomatoes fed to livestock etc.

have you looked into the United States department of agricultures direct loan program?

but they never actually mitigate the differences in methodology between the studies they selected.

it's absolutely falsifiable: show how the problems of analyzing diverse LCA models have been rectified. they don't do this, though, they just charge ahead compiling the data.

they temper their own conclusions by pointing out the problems with their methodology. poore-nemecek doesn't even have the honesty to do that.

quoting their own source material is not an appeal to authority. it's pointing out flawed methodology.

this doesn't address what I said. it's a pure red herring attacking my style instead of the facts.