Quick notes for those who only know of Lemmy after the reddit API fiasco: from what I understand, reddit's banning of /r/chapotraphouse in mid-2020 is how Hexbear came to be (biggest instance prior to API drama, albeit unfederated at the time due to major software divergence) and the banning of /r/genzedong, /r/genzhao and /r/genzhukov in March 2022 brought a large exodus of users onto lemmygrad.ml, making it the most popular federated instance until the reddit API changes.
As in, why here and not reddit? I drifted away from posting on reddit about 5 - 8 years ago. I was icky over their ads and tracking and it was just a time sink I didn't need back then, but I would still use alternate frontends (the current equivalent would be libreddit) to lurk while on the train trip to work and back.
I forget whether I found lemmy from /r/piracy exploring bunker options (raddle and lemmy) or if it was through FOSS, but I liked its potential and have been here posting here since 2022.
I can't remember anyone justifying out of personal dislike or popularity. Their justification is that this person's actions are mass social murder, suggesting that such anti-social people deserve to be killed if the legal system refuses to punish and deter them. The fact that people generally hate a mass killer is incidental, it's not the reason they deserve a punishment.
There are good arguments against vigilantism in general, and while I don't fully agree in this specific case, I respect them as valid reasons. But to say this assassin is being given a free pass simply because people don't like the victim is absurd.
Morality is subjective, no real system can definitively decide what is evil. But in this case we're talking about, it's pretty clear cut that the CEO was a willful threat to the health of millions. This isn't some abstract slippery slope of dubious vigilantism, might as well be claiming that the assassination attempts on Hitler were a gateway to Mad Max dystopia.
I'd sooner suck ""terrorist"" cock than dead CEO cock. I stand on the side of the millions of victims who are in poverty or dead because of this executed creep's orders. Where do you stand?
I don't remember agreeing to these laws. I break the dumbest ones constantly. Laws are made by politicians who are controlled by the owning class. They are enforced on us, not developed by us. That's why corporations and their board of directors can rape the earth and kill thousands and millions while you and me can get jailed for petty little things like copying textbooks too much or buying fun smokable plants.
This was not a random or petty attack. Their message on the bullet casings makes it clear they were attacking this person because they've knowingly helped enable incomprehensible amounts of human suffering on a scale of millions.
I understand that vigilantism, speaking generally, has its own serious dangers. But speaking specifically, this person is clearly not a threat to people who aren't legalized mass murderers. Who's he going to pick next? Probably the CEO of the second most abusive healthcare insurer.
That said, obviously with limited resources the police have to pick what cases take priority over others.
The police follow the law. The law is defined by politicians, who are effectively purchased by the owner class. The police were never going to arrest that CEO for their crimes against humanity, it would be illegal for them to do it out of the public interest. Direct vigilantism was the only realistic chance at deterrence in this situation.
because they’re too busy chasing down all those people who hurt others’ fee-fees by misgendering them
Interesting take, but on the other hand I suspect that nothing new would be learned. afaik their main forensics techniques aren't really a mystery, there are thousands of cases to learn from.
people who think premeditated homicide can be justified
This is, evidently, a common mainstream view. If we lived in a world where the legal system actually worked and was a viable option for dealing with them non-violently, perhaps this view wouldn't be popular, but the working class can't afford to pretend the system is fair. Just like citizens defending against a military invasion, sometimes homicide is the only effective action left to try.
Literally every single human alive has posted on Lemmy.com in enthusiastic support of the assassin. Even you are posting how you think their murdering was justified! That's a proven fact, you can check it on Wikipedia.
Ehh, yes, I suppose I was being intentionally dense in a way, overlooking the point of unity, because I believe events like this show us exactly why the left-right framework should be fought; the 'left' and 'right' are unified when it comes to class conflict! The real split lies in who is the owner class and who isn't.
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Quick notes for those who only know of Lemmy after the reddit API fiasco: from what I understand, reddit's banning of /r/chapotraphouse in mid-2020 is how Hexbear came to be (biggest instance prior to API drama, albeit unfederated at the time due to major software divergence) and the banning of /r/genzedong, /r/genzhao and /r/genzhukov in March 2022 brought a large exodus of users onto lemmygrad.ml, making it the most popular federated instance until the reddit API changes.