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  • I am not sure, and I didn't mean to imply that is the cause. I don't have a lot of male Chinese friend, so I don't have any data in that department.

    However, to be completely frank, I sometimes feel that now Chinese female are subject to much higher social expectation, which are likely to be reflect on social media, thus amplifying their anxiety.

    But I certainly have plenty of female friends that doesn't use rednote, and they are doing fine. (except one on twiter, and she also says that she is pretty anxious about it 🤣

  • I am sincerely glad your daughter is having fun, but I have several female friends who are trapped in the toxic spiral of rednote and cannot quit.

    I have not been on any Chinese social media for years, so I looked it up. From what I read on the Chinese internet, they have a tendency to serve wholesome content to people at first, then switch to toxic content to encourage consumption. As many westerners don't know, rednote is a shopping-guide app, and they make money from it.

    You can read more about their practise toward consumption and their history on wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaohongshu and many post on the Chinese internet claim they are "selling anxiety", which I mentioned in my previous comments.

    I hope they don't do it to non-Chinese people and I really hope people like your daughter can continue to have fun wherever they are. Your daughter seems to have more control about social media tha my friends, so I hope she can quit when the app stopped working for her.

  • They are very much designed to sowing Chinese discourse and push the capitalist hyper-consumption life style. In fact RedNote is famous for being toxic and anxiety-inducing among Chinese community, probably due to its root in product promotion:

    Xiaohongshu was founded by Miranda Qu and Charlwin Mao in 2013 as an online tour guide for Chinese shoppers, providing a platform for users to review products and share their shopping experiences with the community.

    They are also anti-competitive and consumer-hostile:

    Xiaohongshu strictly prevents advertising and linking to external websites or apps. Actions such as sending WeChat contacts in posts or DMs or inquiring about prices of goods can lead to account suspension.

    And most westerners don't see this side of rednote, because rednote give western users special treatments, i.e. because of western privileges:

    Following the growth in users from the United States, Xiaohongshu was said to be exploring adjusting its content review processes as American influencers began sharing posts.

    On 14 January 2025, Xiaohongshu announced that it would direct users to more "positive" content in line with a November 2024 directive from the Cyberspace Administration of China.

    Quotes are from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaohongshu and there are many Mandarin articles on the toxicity of rednote:

    It is funny to see those so called "communist" rushing to defend the very embodiment of capitalistic hyper-consumption in China, and the only thing shielding them from such toxicity is their own privilege.

  • I think individual instance blocking is not as good as defederating.

    However, even with my instance defederating ml, hexbear, and grad, I can still see ml lovers who moved to other instances, which is slightly disappointing.

  • Not the first on the app store, unfortunately...

    I understand people arguing that a lot of advocacy work is on tiktok, hence it is important; but I really wish good people can advocate on good platforms, instead of monopolistic data-hungry tech oligarchs.

  • How do people not think that China is also a hyper capitalistic society, especially in the tech sector. Your data is 100% being sold if you are on any Chinese platform, just like in the U.S.

    If anything, Chinese big tech tends to be less privacy-respecting than the west, because they don't need to operate in area with basic privacy laws, like Europe and California; and there are much less alternative products to choose from because of the GFW.

    The founder and CEO of Baidu openly stated that "Chinese people are less sensitive about privacy, which gives us more data to work with" See https://m.163.com/dy/article/DDRTB01Q0511FQO9.html?spss=adap_pc

  • He probably knows more than me, but after a brief search Gail Slater worked for internet association, which is a lobbying group backed by all the big tech you can imagine; then worked for Trump for a bit; and finally ends up working for Fox and Ruku, two companies with no anti-trust (Fox-Disney merger, happened in Trump term) and dumping concerns ;^) .

    See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Slater and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Association

    Honestly, I didn't know people working for Fox and Ruku always had the noble goal of breaking up the very companies that pay her bills. But I would love to be proven wrong.

    I have also found no evidence that the several anti-trust law suit (visa, google, apple, etc.) started at Trump term. If so, the DOJ is really taking their sweet time, because all these suit has just started...