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NATO was very much an anti-Soviet and then anti-Russian

Right, because they were considered the biggest threat, if any country was going to go "Germany" it would be Russia/USSR.

Russia wanted to join NATO

That doesn't prove anything, Russia excels at Intelligence programs, so if anything there were ulterior motives. "Russia. Crap military, fantastic intelligence agency" ~Some comment I saw here once.

For example, they attacked Georgia and then Ukraine to prevent them from joining NATO. Clearly they're afraid of NATO and don't want to fight it.

Are you serious? Attacking sovereign countries to show other sovereign countries in an alliance that you won't attack them?

Yea no, he doesn't want to attack NATO yet, he wants to slow down its growth because he wants Russias military growth to outpace it first. Then when he feels good and ready then will be the attack.

Unlike Drump, Putler isn't stupid, he has a plan and he's executing it. And a big thing about plans, you generally want to take certain actions at certain times

Nobody is talking about why Russia did what they did and realistically there's nothing majorly wrong with NATO, it's an alliance of mostly EU countries to band together to prevent another world war and to protect themselves from "another Germany" and Russia has done absolutely nothing over the past 20+ years to assure people that they won't attack NATO EU countries. Quite the opposite in fact.

In any case, I have them parroting Russia narratives/misinformation here: https://lemmy.world/post/27314050 here: https://lemmy.world/post/27012640 and here https://lemmy.world/post/27288224 shows censoring of people even merely express that EU is also right to be concerned of Chinese and Russian militaries on their front lawn

In a town painted Red, not so far away, Lived the Projecters who had much to say. PROJECTING their faults with the greatest of ease, PROJECTING their guilt like a strange heart disease!

"Those blues over there are the ones who are bad! They do all the things that make everyone sad!" But the truth of the matter, quite funny to see, They were PROJECTING exactly what they happened to be!

When caught with their hands in the cookie display, "It's the Blues who eat cookies!" they would hastily say PROJECTING their actions with thunderous noise, Using PROJECTION as one of their favorite toys!

Oh, the PROJECTING they did was a sight to behold, The stories theyd spin and the tales that were told! PROJECTING their fears and their schemes on the rest, While doing those things they PROJECTED with zest!

And would they admit it? Oh no, not at all! They'd PROJECT even harder and stand very tall. For PROJECTING protects them from looking within At the truth of their actions, their very own sin!

Yea there is, the ones who don't glorify and call brutal dictators "silly boy"

"If you don't support Russia, you don't understand international geopolitics " ~dessalines

LMAO somebody's not paying attention, there's PLENTY of posts in there, all with screenshots with links to threads AND the modlog to complete the context. What I directly linked was but a mere sampling, here:

From censorship, bans and bias towards their "in crowd":

https://lemmy.world/post/27674360

https://lemmy.world/post/27674117

https://lemmy.world/post/27673934

https://lemmy.world/post/27673724

https://lemmy.world/post/27577337

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27346630

https://lemmy.world/post/27341283

https://lemmy.world/post/27288224

https://lemmy.world/post/27156418

https://lemmy.world/post/27054157

https://lemmy.world/post/27008261

To altering headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:

https://lemmy.world/post/27428838

https://lemmy.world/post/27416097

https://lemmy.world/post/27314050

https://lemmy.world/post/27288953

That spew Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a "negotiating tactic" https://lemmy.world/post/27012640

To general hostility to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

To their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

To even "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren't that bad https://lemmy.world/post/26985447

LMAO tons of my official evidence posts link back to, not only the relevant thread, but to the modlog as well in addition to literal screenshots

with my hard earned working class salary.

I bet you haven't even bothered to cut back on your avocado toast

Nah, for one, that "cross-posted from" thing is dumb AF when there's a dedicated UI button/link that automatically shows when a link is detected elsewhere on the Lemmy-verse.

That's how you end up with cluttered posts like:

Cross-posted from:

Crossposted from:

Crossposted from:

For two, I'm cross-posting content from .ml comms to the nearest non-.ml comm as part of ongoing boycotting efforts to reduce .ml's influence to make defederation an easier decision for admins everywhere because of the .ml admins insistence to push their Tankie ideology through various means from censorship of views critical of Authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China to allowing propaganda outlets (such as RT) to flourish

Adding a low-friction link like that runs counter to that.

This was a crosspost, didn't realize it was a modified headline, though considering where I'm cross-posting it from I really should be more mindful of such things LMAO

Fixed

Most don't have a problem with AI itself and even find it useful in its proper use cases

What most of us hate about it is the corporations shoving it every which way where it doesn't belong, doesn't work and down all our throats for profits so they can make line go up

Me: Brings receipts

Tankies: "Yea...bu..but... well ACkShuLly it's just because of your HaTREd as a result of you being fed WeStERn PrOPaGAnDa, so it's all INVALID! FAKE NEWS!!"

Thanks for the tag!

Lol !runescape@lemmy.world

Yea that's what I'm saying lol, ML is more of an authoritarian flavor OF communism/socialism, and the thing people hate the most. Marx's part alone is decent, but then Lenin bastardized it and then later Stalin bastardized it even more

Lol no, Tankie are authoritarians who've latched onto regimes who merely claim to be communistic/socialist i.e. China and Russia. That's the part people hate, not communism/socialism in general

https://lemmy.world/post/27513594

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

Yea, on .ml as long as you're in the in crowd you can say all pejoratives you want like "shitlib" and the most you'll (maybe) get is a 24 hour ban, but if you say tankie you'll get slapped with at least a 14 day ban

Basically, .ml Tankies (I don't consider all .ml users to be Tankies just because they're a .ml users) are authoritarian bootlickers “communists” pretending not to be who routinely deny the human rights violations of the CCP/Russia and hold them up as the gold standard. They refuse to recognize China, Russia and even NK as being authortarian regimes or if they do, its OK/Neccessary because it takes down the west/capitalism. If you have a historical fact that puts any of those countries in a bad light, they’ll probably deny it happend or is just “western propganda.”

So they believe and spread things like the Russia narratives on Ukraine (When it happened they were parroting the whole “special military operation” thing, the current thing is that it was “just a diplomatic maneuver to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table”)

Hex and Grad are very in your face about it, but .ml tends to be more subtle, often opting instead to remove dissenting comments and ban users before letting threads get out of control. So, as a result many instances defed from those 2.

.ml is run by the head Lemmy devs who are, unfortunately, hardcore Tankies themselves and tend to enforce the Tankie mindset throughout with more subtlety through mod/admin action. Or allowing known propaganda outlets to fester

You can check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works if you want to see some documentation of their actions, words and censoring. What I've linked here is but a mere sampling of what's been collected there

Ya you're right! I myself have been coming around to Trump's master plan and clearly it just takes a true visionary to understand it 😌